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Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Protonmail or fastmail are both decent.

Or cock.li, countermail.com, scryptmail.com, tutanota.com or vfemail.net.

I think cockmail would reflect poorly on my professional image, and I'm not really confident my friends would be able to take me seriously with that domain, but sure.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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post #288

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Try using a large blocklist[1] in your hosts file and installing umatrix[2] and/or ublock origin[3] to block garbage scripts from loading. I don't know if that will help, but that's what I'm doing and Firefox is as fast or faster than Chrome. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=hosts+blocklists [2] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/umatrix/ [3] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin…

I confess that I have uMatrix in Chrome but not FF, but I do use pihole, and it’s not really a third party scripts problem, FF feels slower on perfectly clean sites.

Maybe it has something to do with the combination of your OS and Firefox versions. I've just tested a few sites (without umatrix, but with Firefox's built-in privacy protection) and they are about the same speed according to the network console. Sometimes Firefox is slightly faster, other times Chrome is slightly faster. (Ubuntu 16.04)

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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I used to do this in chrome. You can click on your profile picture in the upper-right corner of the gmail UI to switch accounts. You end up having a different URL per user, like " rel="nofollow">https://mail.google.com/mail/u/ , where is 0 or 1 if you have two users. You can put these in bookmarks and have them open in different tabs.

This is called "multilogin". You sure can bookmark them, but if you ever happen to get logged out and then you log back into them in a different order, you'll find that the 0/1/2 really do refer simply to "the th Google account I signed into", so your bookmarks might not work.

Yeah, I would just log out of all of them and log back in with the desired order if that happened. That doesn't happen very often though.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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post #76

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I love my relatives, and Facebook is how they communicate.

Don't they all have email addresses? I'm not saying that you're entirely wrong, because I've used that rationalization for keeping Facebook in the past. What I do instead is just maintain an address book of everyone I know and send them an update on my life every once in a great while. It's much more fulfilling.

How is that different from them asking me "don't you have a web browser?"

I'm already the black sheep of my family, I'm not going to make it worse because strangers on the internet told me to.

(I do take some precautions, like only using Facebook in a private window, and certainly never on my phone.)

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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post #301

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Or cock.li, countermail.com, scryptmail.com, tutanota.com or vfemail.net.

I think cockmail would reflect poorly on my professional image, and I'm not really confident my friends would be able to take me seriously with that domain, but sure.

Indeed, but for some purposes, maybe? Also, they offer airmail.cc (innocuous) and tfwno.gf (not entirely obvious).

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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post #288

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Try using a large blocklist[1] in your hosts file and installing umatrix[2] and/or ublock origin[3] to block garbage scripts from loading. I don't know if that will help, but that's what I'm doing and Firefox is as fast or faster than Chrome. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=hosts+blocklists [2] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/umatrix/ [3] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin…

I confess that I have uMatrix in Chrome but not FF, but I do use pihole, and it’s not really a third party scripts problem, FF feels slower on perfectly clean sites.

I have performance issues with heavy sites because I use many extensions. Sometimes, I disable all extensions and it stills sluggish on Facebook for example, but the issue goes away when I use a new profile. Maybe you can try it.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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post #87

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The most straightforward solution is to create a separate Chrome user/profile for your work account. It's a great way to keep your private and organizational accounts completely separate. You can even sync all Chrome settings, extensions, and bookmars though the company account if they allow you to use your own devices. Unlike Firefox (major pain point btw), you can run Chrome with multiple profiles at once, each in…

Firefox has had profiles since at least 0.8, released in 2004, when it was renamed from Firebird, more than four and a half years prior to Google Chrome's release. This code, however, was inherited from Netscape Communicator 4, released more than a decade before Google Chrome. Hell, Netscape 4 predates Google ! However, since the profile code is so old, it is not accessible from the main interface; it must be accesse…

I just wanted to add that I regularly run many different Firefox profiles in parallel, and it definitely supports that feature.

Granted the UI could use some work, but if you make a shortcut that brings up the profile selector it works pretty OK.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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post #200

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If you mean profiles, Firefox has had it even longer, albeit with poor UI.

Look I'm a contributor to Firefox and even I think it's a stretch to say that FF has multi-profile support. I mean the feature is technically there but it's unusable by everyone except FF nerds. It's a special kind of hell where something like FIREFOX_PROFILE_DIR=~/.profile1 firefox FIREFOX_PROFILE_DIR=~/.profile2 firefox would actually be an improvement on the UX.

You need to make one shortcut[0]:

  firefox --no-remote -ProfileManager
Then just click that every time you want a new/different profile. It has a list, with Create, Delete, Rename buttons...

I do wish -ProfileManager implied --no-remote though -- I wonder whether there's a reason it doesn't?.

EDIT: I just found `firefox -P` elsewhere in the thread. Also it seems like -ProfileManager does imply --no-remote now. Yay!

[0]: Or a shell script in my case, but a shortcut is probably more "accessible".

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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That looks really nice. If I end up staying with OSX, I'll give it a try. Thanks!

No. Can’t recommend it enough, to be honest. Their dev team/CS is also extremely responsive (I generally hear from Lars). Honestly, it’s the only way I can handle using gmail regularly.

I can no longer edit but the first part got cut, instead the "No" can just be removed, to clarify.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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You might want to try it again. I have over 80 Firefox tabs open in multiple windows, multiple containers, and two Firefox profiles. It's still extremely fast.

Last time I tried Firefox, a few months ago, tab switching was painfully slow as compared to Chrome. I intend to give it another chance soon, though.

What about a hardware upgrade?
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