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Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by dagenix »

JoshMnem wrote: post #179
redm wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, sadly its never that simple. I tried diligently (all in) to use Quantum when it came out, for over a month. It just wasn't stable/fast enough when running a larger number of tabs. I'm hopeful it will get there soon and I can ditch Chrome but its just not there for me, yet.

You might want to try it again. I have over 80 Firefox tabs open in multiple windows, multiple containers, and two Firefox profiles. It's still extremely fast.

Last time I tried Firefox, a few months ago, tab switching was painfully slow as compared to Chrome. I intend to give it another chance soon, though.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by Ajedi32 »

So... why is this a problem? If I sign into my Google account, I already get signed into Maps, Drive, YouTube, Gmail, Calendar, etc. Why shouldn't Chrome be part of that list?

I can perhaps understand there being some scenarios where this might not be desirable (depending on exactly how it's implemented), but for 99% of users this is a good thing, isn't it?

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by dagenix »

ReverseCold wrote: post #66
r721 wrote: post #54

"Google calls the feature "Identity consistency between browser and cookie jar" and a Chrome representative on the official Google Chrome Help Forum confirmed that this is the intended behavior. >This is an intended behaviour if you are using the same Google Account for your Gmail and Chrome. If yes, you'll be signed out of Chrome when you signed out of Gmail account. ... Good news is that it is possible currently to…

Alternatively just get Firefox, use https://ffprofile.com/ once, and stop dealing with Chrome. Ta-da, no more spyware.

Calling that behavior "spyware" is a bit of a stretch.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by Hnrobert42 »

dagenix wrote: post #183
ReverseCold wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alternatively just get Firefox, use https://ffprofile.com/ once, and stop dealing with Chrome. Ta-da, no more spyware.

Calling that behavior "spyware" is a bit of a stretch.

Why? Because it’s google? I get no advantage out of the feature, and it primarily serves to gather data on me. To me, that’s spyware.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by explainplease »

amelius wrote: post #149

> This can't be a bug... can it? Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. (Hanlon's razor)

I imagine all the spooks and blackhats around the world utter a hearty chortle whenever they see someone cite that on the Internet. All they have to do for plausible deniability is plant a few obvious noob mistakes and, boom: that couldn't possibly be a backdoor, it's just a stupid mistake!

The real question is how Hanlon's Razor applies to itself.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by explainplease »

qalmakka wrote: post #94
duxup wrote: post #50

I wish I could just have multiple Chrome installs segregated from each other for different purposes. I used to use Firefox for work and chrome for personal stuff. My new employer uses Google's business apps so it is easiest in Chrome....but that knocks out my two browsers at once system. Often I'll need something I saved to drive (sample code, doc, something) or bookmarked in my personal account that suddenly was rel…

You are fundamentally describing Firefox Containers. They are awesome and they work just like that, allowing you to have multiple independent sets of cookies for each context you need.

That sounds great! But if Mozilla follows the pattern they have set, they will discontinue that extension, just like they dumped Tab Groups, etc. So why should users invest in using it and building workflows around it, when it's probably just another rug to be ripped out from under them?

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by dagenix »

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #184
dagenix wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calling that behavior "spyware" is a bit of a stretch.

Why? Because it’s google? I get no advantage out of the feature, and it primarily serves to gather data on me. To me, that’s spyware.

Personally, I'm going to sign into both anyway. One less thing to sign into saves me time. That makes me happy. I dunno if I'm in the minority or not. But, it's a feature that at least some people find useful, so, I think branding it spyware is unjustified. It's not like it's a keylogger sending my data to who knows where which no reasonable person could ever find useful.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by acct1771 »

yborg wrote: post #147
sosilkj wrote: post #95

If you have gmail, consider using an imap client. it might take a bit of tweaking the configuration, but i'd say it's worthwhile.

They'll get rid of that loophole next. Monopolies doing monopoly things.

RIP federation-friendly XMPP gChat

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by hakfoo »

abandonliberty wrote: post #59
duiker101 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A while ago I switched to Vivaldi. I have never been happier with a browser.

Why do you like Vivaldi? I'm using it but am fairly ambivalent.

I liked that they took the old Opera 12- spatial-keyboard-navigation paradigm.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by ttty »

Androider wrote: post #85

Once again G Suite customers get the shaft. I have a personal Gmail account, and a business G Suite account, and this change makes working with the two accounts a complete pain. All my years of Chrome bookmarks/settings/etc. are associated with my personal account, so I want the browser itself to always be logged in with that identity. But I want to be logged into my business G Suite email account "by default" when I…

Just open your new Gmail and bookmark that page.
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