Tesla Accounting Chief, HR Head Resign on the Same Day; Stock Plunges

Post by dragontamer » Fri, Sep 07, 2018, 3:28 PM UTC

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Ford makes 50-90k F-150's a month without the drama. There is no universe where Tesla will be manufacturing 25,000 (300k/12) $40-50k cars per month. BMW alone sells something like 9,000 3-series vehicles in that price range per month. It's not credible that Tesla, with a limited sales network, limited charging infrastructure, high costs and long backlog is going to magically take away double digit percentages of the…

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Post by dragontamer » Fri, Sep 07, 2018, 3:30 PM UTC

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> I don't think you realize how much FUD is disseminated daily in the mainstream media. FUD is what people do to Apple when they are making money hand over fist every quarter. TSLA is just a terribly run company that may end up out of business. Which is sad, because they have what appears to be a good product. Their production arrogance may not be able to be overcome though. This is also standard Musk to blame short-…

A company that went from selling 11 cars in 2011 to 200k cars in 2018 is poorly run ?

Post by ajmurmann » Fri, Sep 07, 2018, 3:38 PM UTC

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I think it's time for Elon to step away from Tesla. He is an incredible visionary and that's what made Tesla possible and revolutionized the car industry. That work is done now. Everyone is making electric cars now. There is no need for Elon to innovate at Tesla anymore. I might even go so far and say that Tesla had moved the entire industry so much that there isn't even much need for Tesla itself. I think it's best…

I tend to agree. He's been fantastic at getting the impossible to happen, but he's not as good at just running things. There was a bit in time when he offered to help Flint, MI with their water. It turns out they don't need the help. However, if he were to turn his fantastic energy towards helping under-served communities, I think he'd find that there's plenty to do, and very satisfying.

Post by ummonk » Fri, Sep 07, 2018, 3:44 PM UTC

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It's been an overall bad experience. Here's a rough chronology: (1) Serious and clearly visible body panel alignment issues. They got fixed, but it took a while and Tesla didn't have a loaner car. There was also a scratch on the car when it was delivered. (2) Door handles not extending. This problem occurred multiple times. The first "fix" was to reboot the computer. (3) A whole host of software bugs including consta…

Given that Tesla owners are the most satisfied (cf. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/12/21/tesla-po... ), that implies that the other owners are even more happy with their Tesla that I would have expected. All surveys about panel gaps points to Tesla being above average (expect in the first few cars out of the line, which are generally owned by employees). If your friends' Tesla has serious software bug,…

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Sep 07, 2018, 3:53 PM UTC

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> After that he had a range of little annoying problems, many of which were likely software bugs, but then he (actually his GF) experienced something in autopilot mode known on the Tesla forums as "shadow braking" -- the car braking hard on the highway because it seems to see the shadow of an overpass and think it's a wall. This is extremely dangerous. It was on the I-405 (SoCal) going 70-80mph, and such a thing coul…

It's clearly a software defect. I don't know how you could possibly claim otherwise. The reasons behind the defect are irrelevant from a customer standpoint. A human driver who did that during a driver's license test would be failed.