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Tesla Accounting Chief, HR Head Resign on the Same Day; Stock Plunges

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Re: Tesla Accounting Chief, HR Head Resign on the Same Day; Stock Plunges

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Post by pc86 »

sowbug wrote: post #92
emptyfile wrote: post #37

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Holy shit!!!?! Potential life threatening maneuvers on the road are a feature of the self-learning Autopilot system???? Because without it the car will just ram itself into a wall??? >With that said, if that causes concern for the driver, the vehicle isn't for them. What if it causes concern for the driver behind them, what then? My family will get a settlement after a Tesla kills me? How the fuck are these cars lega…

Being in a car is life-threatening.

Oh well then I guess high speed braking maneuvers on a highway without user input are just fine then.

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Post by [deleted] »

compcoffee wrote: post #98
rcMgD2BwE72F wrote: post #81

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I don't think you realize how much FUD is disseminated daily in the mainstream media. Take this Reuters article for instance, which has been published and translated by dozens of top newspapers: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-germany-daimler/ele... 3rd paragraph: "The market for upscale electric cars is Tesla’s to lose, with sales of its entry-level Model 3 sedan expected to reach about 50,000 cars this yea…

> What kind of error is that? They've aware of this, they are not correcting. All media who published the report and were made aware of the "mistake" kept it, even though the 50K is already proven wrong. Who cares? What influence do you think this article and that estimate has? "Disinformation"; that's laughable. Tesla and Musk are being sued and investigated for stock manipulation, but you're crying about Reuters be…

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Post by dmode »

chollida1 wrote: post #3

And their Chief People Officer, is not coming back from her leave. From the outside it looks like Telsa is about going to go into a tough winter like moment. They are almost losing by winning. They are at capacity in their Fremont factory but still not making a profit. They need to start designing and building out manufacturing facilities for their next car and the help bolster Model X manufacturing. Stop and think f…

Tesla's liquidity issues are completely overblown. Nevermind that their cashflow and spend numbers are improving. People also tend to overlook the amount of investor liquidity we have in the market. SoftBank has a $100bn fund. Saudi's have a $1 trillion sovereign wealth fund. I believe the UAE have something similar as well. Raising a couple billion dollars in this environment would be extremely easy. Especially when you have a backlogged demand on your product and the product has a 20% gross margin

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Post by bob_theslob646 »

matwood wrote: post #102
leesec wrote: post #91

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Could it be it's a very intense place to work and people who get in that position decide they don't want to work the long hours when they could be making just as much money somewhere more cushy?

You're kidding right? Any CxO position at a publicly traded company is long hours with a lot of work and responsibility.

There's a difference between a publicly traded company and the most talked about publicly traded company.

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Post by antt »

ericb wrote: post #134
matwood wrote: post #102

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You're kidding right? Any CxO position at a publicly traded company is long hours with a lot of work and responsibility.

> Any CxO position at a publicly traded company is long hours I don't think that's true at all. The CFO/CEO at companies I've worked at are not working 120 hour weeks, and they were publicly traded. If anything, they were there about 40 hours a week.

And most CEO positions don't involve you smoking a joint on air during those 120 hours either.

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Post by cecja »

rcMgD2BwE72F wrote: post #45
cecja wrote: post #28

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Talk about gaslighting yourself. If you are not recoginizing that something fishy is going on at tesla you are not reading the same articles as the rest of us.

What's fishy? I've been following Tesla since 2010 and the main changes since then isn't what appears to be fishy but what the media are making of it. Do you realize that Tesla sold more cars in the US that Mercedes and BMW this summer? How many media reported that? Do you know that the most trusted car analysts who tear-down the car said it's expected to be the most profitable car produced in high volume? Do you kno…

You know that you are literally falling for all the PR moves tesla made in the last year? The whole tent thing to get the quota up or delaying deliveries so they can ship a lot of cars in one month or the going privat stunt. I don't mind if some little startup wants to pull shit like this but Elon really thinks he can outsmart everyone with stuff like this and it gets annoying real fast.

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Post by bob_theslob646 »

maxxxxx wrote: post #62

I just watched a part of the Joe Rogan podcast with Musk and I have to say he looks very unhealthy. Maybe I am wrong but to me he looks like he is drinking a lot or on some other drugs. I can imagine working with a CEO who is pushing himself way other the limit is a pretty unpleasant experience.

>I just watched a part of the Joe Rogan podcast with Musk and I have to say he looks very unhealthy.

What does that even mean? can you use your words to describe what you mean by unhealthy? were you able to see his blood pressure through the tint in his skin?

Your comment is spam especially when everyone knows the hours that he works.

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Post by dmode »

matwood wrote: post #117
rcMgD2BwE72F wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you realize how much FUD is disseminated daily in the mainstream media. Take this Reuters article for instance, which has been published and translated by dozens of top newspapers: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-germany-daimler/ele... 3rd paragraph: "The market for upscale electric cars is Tesla’s to lose, with sales of its entry-level Model 3 sedan expected to reach about 50,000 cars this yea…

> I don't think you realize how much FUD is disseminated daily in the mainstream media. FUD is what people do to Apple when they are making money hand over fist every quarter. TSLA is just a terribly run company that may end up out of business. Which is sad, because they have what appears to be a good product. Their production arrogance may not be able to be overcome though. This is also standard Musk to blame short-…

A company that went from selling 11 cars in 2011 to 200k cars in 2018 is poorly run ?

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Post by bdcravens »

pjc50 wrote: post #29
chollida1 wrote: post #3

And their Chief People Officer, is not coming back from her leave. From the outside it looks like Telsa is about going to go into a tough winter like moment. They are almost losing by winning. They are at capacity in their Fremont factory but still not making a profit. They need to start designing and building out manufacturing facilities for their next car and the help bolster Model X manufacturing. Stop and think f…

> Tesla is one earthquake away from no longer being a company. So is most of Silicon Valley, which is actually in an earthquake zone that some believe is overdue an earthquake.

Your typical Internet startup wouldn't lose its means of production, which are people with computers, assuming they are deployed to the cloud. Even those that do any kind of hardware (say scooters) aren't the factories elsewhere and then shipped?

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Post by matwood »

dnomad wrote: post #129
matwood wrote: post #94

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>See, it's easy to ask stupidly leading questions and spout completely baseless speculation. What's more difficult is actually examining the facts and drawing a rational conclusion. In the first quarter of this year, the company lost Morton’s predecessor, Eric Branderiz, and Susan Repo, who was treasurer and vice president of finance. CFO Deepak Ahuja retired in 2015, only to return in 2017 after his successor, Jason…

Yeah that's not a rotating door of anything. Both those executives were with the company for 2-5 years before they decided to leave. Wheeler was almost certainly fired because Musk wanted Ahuja back. Consider that the announcement of Ahuja's return occured one day after Wheeler's announcement. Sorry, this entire narrative you have invested in of executives running for the hills just has no relation to reality.

And the head HR person.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/07/another-tesla-executive-leav...

> Sorry, this entire narrative you have invested in of executives running for the hills just has no relation to reality.

TSLA supporters thinking everything is fine are the ones that have no relation to reality.

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