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Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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Re: Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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Post by ApolloFortyNine »

ramshanker wrote: post #85

Everyone is comparing Data Price in India to that of west/south. Considering it's so much cheaper in India, It's an irony that Indian's egress charges are 200% of the USA egress charges. [1] Ex: CloudFront egress for India: $0.170/GB.[Jio gives to user : $0.044/GB under ideal daily max consumption]. CloudFront egress for USA: $0.085/GB .... This is HALF of Indian rates. https://aws.amazon.com/cloudfront/pricing/

CloudFront isn't exactly the cheapest CDN. BunnyCDN is .01/US for their premium and half that for their volume service. India would only be .03/US (granted with only one datacenter in the South).

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Post by shripadk »

proginthebox wrote: post #78
pnenp wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Had to re-read to see 1.5 GB per day . Wow. I used to think we had it good in Austria (10GB for €10 per month ). But that is fantastic.

In Europe, the wired broadbands are cheap and fast. In India, there is no hope for cheap and fast wired broadband due to poor planning. Hence the craze for 4G. Also, the rates are marginal. For a long time, the rates induced loss for companies.

That's incorrect. Jio has already come out with high speed wired broadband called JioGigaFiber: https://jiofiber.co.in/. Poles have been erected in my locality and pretty much the entire city. It's way cheaper than the current broadband I'm using (Hathway) and I'll be shifting to it once it launches. Currently it's being rolled out in phases across the country: https://www.mysmartprice.com/gear/2018/09/06/jio-gigafiber-c...

"JIO GIGA FIBER will be the largest greenfield fixed-line broadband rollout anywhere in the world, with rollout happening in 1,100 cities of India simultaneously"

Re: Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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Post by evozer »

baybal2 wrote: post #108
rohit2412 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But jio is also cheaper by a factor of 10-20. It is unbelievable pricing, they cannot be subsidizing it by 90%, and they probably don't have 90% margin initially, after including infrastructure costs.

Factor of 10??? China mobile Pakistan - 200 Gb package for $65 Jio - ~30 gb for $6 a month, you can't humanly consume exactly 1.5 Gb per day. 200 : 65 = ~3.1 30 : 6 = ~5 Best case scenario, 45 : 6 = 7.5 So it is twice as cheap, but not by a factor of 10

OP said $5 for 84 days though, not a month.

Re: Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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Post by iamshs »

lnkmails wrote: post #104

I live in USA but I am of Indian origin. My parents' apartment in India now has Fiber Internet with 80Mbps at 1000INR (15USD)/month. On my recent travel (Aug 2018), I had Jio and was working remotely. It is so cheap to get Jio. I had 0 issues and I was praising the Internet situation in India for the first time in the last decade. Seriously, good changes in Internet situation. The top challenges for me right now to m…

Jio has enabled a digital revolution, just like Reliance Infocomm did by making all incoming calls free back in 2005 I think.

Jio has also made sure that my youtube homepage is filled with soft porn. It is an absolute scourge.

WhatsApp rumour mongering has increased a lot with lynchings happening based on the fact that law and order can’t keep up pace with technology.

I also see that lots of unemployed people now are just engrossed in WhatsApp videos nearly all day. It should have made job searching easier, but wages are depressed to such a degree that people just lose all hope and find solace in the mindless videos. Indirect consequences of the technology too.

Re: Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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Post by baybal2 »

evozer wrote: post #113
baybal2 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Factor of 10??? China mobile Pakistan - 200 Gb package for $65 Jio - ~30 gb for $6 a month, you can't humanly consume exactly 1.5 Gb per day. 200 : 65 = ~3.1 30 : 6 = ~5 Best case scenario, 45 : 6 = 7.5 So it is twice as cheap, but not by a factor of 10

OP said $5 for 84 days though, not a month.

I missed that, than ...it's true.

I'm shedding bitter tears.

Re: Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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Post by drb91 »

fnatreq wrote: post #80
suhastech wrote: post #48

However, there are downsides to this. To compete with Jio. All the carriers have massively decreased the prices to match Jio. This has increased congestion in all metro areas. Things don't work when I most need it. I cannot book an Uber in the middle of the city. The uber drivers struggle to get the navigation right. I sometimes hear "All channels occupied" error when I'm calling. I never knew such an error existed.…

That's the sad truth about unlimited plans. You can't beat physics. Sadly most people don't understand this and think ISPs are being greedy.

People aren’t the ones claiming the plan is unlimited, whatever that means. Are the ISPs confused?

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Post by pkhagah »

iamshs wrote: post #114
lnkmails wrote: post #104

I live in USA but I am of Indian origin. My parents' apartment in India now has Fiber Internet with 80Mbps at 1000INR (15USD)/month. On my recent travel (Aug 2018), I had Jio and was working remotely. It is so cheap to get Jio. I had 0 issues and I was praising the Internet situation in India for the first time in the last decade. Seriously, good changes in Internet situation. The top challenges for me right now to m…

Jio has enabled a digital revolution, just like Reliance Infocomm did by making all incoming calls free back in 2005 I think. Jio has also made sure that my youtube homepage is filled with soft porn. It is an absolute scourge. WhatsApp rumour mongering has increased a lot with lynchings happening based on the fact that law and order can’t keep up pace with technology. I also see that lots of unemployed people now are…

Can you back up that lynching/WhatsApp with some numbers or statistics? Riots used to happen left and right in India for before 90's. A famous politician or actor died, a politician resigned or doing protest, religious demonstrations etc. Lot of the city will be closed. This situation got a lot better after economic liberalization and what followed. Is there a reversal to this trend that you are talking about?

https://twitter.com/ShamikaRavi/status/1034116009794392066

Re: Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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Post by tushar-r »

baybal2 wrote: post #108
rohit2412 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But jio is also cheaper by a factor of 10-20. It is unbelievable pricing, they cannot be subsidizing it by 90%, and they probably don't have 90% margin initially, after including infrastructure costs.

Factor of 10??? China mobile Pakistan - 200 Gb package for $65 Jio - ~30 gb for $6 a month, you can't humanly consume exactly 1.5 Gb per day. 200 : 65 = ~3.1 30 : 6 = ~5 Best case scenario, 45 : 6 = 7.5 So it is twice as cheap, but not by a factor of 10

>you can't humanly consume exactly 1.5 Gb per day.

Why not? Stream at high def for a few hours and you should be done.

Re: Two Years Ago, India Lacked Fast, Cheap Internet – One Billionaire Changed That

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Post by tuxguy »

The average quota is 1.5GB/day (for the latest recharge, they provided 3gb/day). That's a lot !

Some side effects of Jio have been : 1. average media consumption per user, specifically video(youtube, netflix, amazon prime) has gone up drastically 2. voip calls(audio & video calls on whatsapp, telegram) have gone up drastically ! 3. A lot of users, especially youngsters i know, dont download content anymore, they stream it ! Its an interesting usage behaviour shift !

I think Jio's end game is content - getting Indian users to pay for content will be tricky though !(there have been very few successes - unlike the us, the average indian user doesnt like paying for digital subscription content , paid tech news and analysis site, https://the-ken.com/ is an exception)

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