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Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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They're also paring down user-facing settings . It makes no sense to, e.g., send people to about:config for disabling web service workers.

They've been actively hostile to friendly user settings for years. They constantly reduce what's exposed through the settings page, forcing users into about:config.

Forcing users to default settings actually, they would happily remove about:config if they could.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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They're also paring down user-facing settings . It makes no sense to, e.g., send people to about:config for disabling web service workers.

They've been actively hostile to friendly user settings for years. They constantly reduce what's exposed through the settings page, forcing users into about:config.

And I feel like that's the first step towards using their telemetry to decide that feature is unused and can be deprecated (because only the people who really care about something will go through with Googling to find whatever hidden setting needs to be changed to fix their browser).

And yes, I'm still salty about no longer being able to set showOneOffButtons to false :)

(I've stopped using FireFox since the new extensions model doesn't allow this misfeature to be fixed with extensions anymore)

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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That's how I expect Google to make decisions, not Mozilla. I would like to say that I trust Mozilla to appropriately weigh pros and cons and make unpopular decisions when necessary, but it seems like the entire deliberation process was a few individuals in one of the bugzilla threads that jaas linked above: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1402890 (and I don't see any mention of how widely used it is, fro…

> That's how I expect Google to make decisions, not Mozilla Exactly. There is no point to compete with Google for "browser for Uncle Joe", Google won that battle. The power user browser niche is what Firefox could take instead. But no, let's chase after the leader by his rules, look at how good is Blackberry doing.

Can you explain how exactly the description field for bookmarks was a relevant feature for a significant share of power users?

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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With all these posters complaining, am I the only one who is totally satisfied with Firefox? I never had many issues using firefox. I did use Chrome briefly, but came back to firefox. If it matters, I mostly use firefox on Debian Linux and am also not a web developer.

I'm a webdev and I'm totally satisfied with Firefox. Dev tools aren't perfect but good enough to get shit done and the included tracking blocker and containers are a must-have for any browser I'll consider from now on.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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With all these posters complaining, am I the only one who is totally satisfied with Firefox? I never had many issues using firefox. I did use Chrome briefly, but came back to firefox. If it matters, I mostly use firefox on Debian Linux and am also not a web developer.

Another satisfied user, but it comes with the caveat that my habits let me use it. Firefox really knows how to make memory leak and if I weren’t the type to aggressively close windows/tabs I don’t need and not keep the browser going 24/7 I would probably end up switching to Safari as my default.

About 100 open tabs and 10 days of uptime and firefox hasn't leaked memory over here (about 5GiB used).

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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post #144

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> That's how I expect Google to make decisions, not Mozilla Exactly. There is no point to compete with Google for "browser for Uncle Joe", Google won that battle. The power user browser niche is what Firefox could take instead. But no, let's chase after the leader by his rules, look at how good is Blackberry doing.

Can you explain how exactly the description field for bookmarks was a relevant feature for a significant share of power users?

> a significant share

I don't know what is 'a significant share' when we are talking about power users. Not to say a significant share of power users disabled telemetry completely so we can't say anything about their share using this feature.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Google Calendar crushes FF for me. I can't leave it open very long or it slows down FF, eats CPU cycles, and drains my battery.

If you're on OSX and not using the "default for display" resolution, that may be the cause of the issue. Don't have the bugzilla handy, but I stumbled across it at one point and confirmed that that was the culprit for me. Unfortunately, I'm unwilling to use default display res, so I'm hoping that gets fixed soon. Would love to standardize on Firefox for my every day browsing.

> Don't have the bugzilla handy

Here you are: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404042

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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> complimenting is nice, but useless Some people will base their decisions on which software to try/use, based on the general sentiment of discussions on Hacker News. For example, suppose you suddenly had the need for Email As A Service. Which of the plethora of services will you choose to use? I believe a lot of Hacker News users will weight their decisions at least in part on HN comments discussing those services.…

> Some people will base their decisions on which software to try/use, based on the general sentiment of discussions on Hacker News [...] If all people ever see is criticism, that is likely to drive people away from Firefox By that measure, they will completely turn off their computer because every single product is primarily criticism here. I also think substanceless praise is mostly useless in this forum (not in lif…

> I also think substanceless praise is mostly useless in this forum (not in life)

What is different about "life" that makes substanceless praise useful?

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

#159

With all these posters complaining, am I the only one who is totally satisfied with Firefox? I never had many issues using firefox. I did use Chrome briefly, but came back to firefox. If it matters, I mostly use firefox on Debian Linux and am also not a web developer.

Its pretty slow for me on macOS, at least compared to Safari.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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> the trend is one way, and one way only: The paring down of choise and usefuls public features. ...and creating APIs so that extensions can handle the functionality instead.

Creating XUL, really? You cannot create an restricted API for everything, the very point of extensions, plugins, addons is community is always bigger than your developers team, and much, much more diverse. The 'long tail' effect is what extensions community is about, not '90 per cent of users'. 90 per cent of users might need just a couple of the same extensions, the other 10 per cent of users need a thousand of diff…

Well, we had XUL (which was awesome), now it's gone
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