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Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by muizelaar » Wed, Sep 05, 2018, 4:38 PM UTC

phkahler wrote: post #68

>> Improved graphics rendering for Windows users without accelerated hardware using Parallel-Off-Main-Thread Painting Because so many people run windows on hardware without decent graphics hardware?!?!?! And yet Wayland support is still not up to snuff. I use Firefox almost exclusively, but Mozilla seems to have some strange priorities. It's not just them, it's a lot of people out there doing what they want instead o…

From https://firefoxgraphics.github.io/telemetry/:

Linux users are about 2.7% of Firefox users

Windows users are 93.2% of Firefox users

27.7% of Windows users don't have Direct2D

That means 25.8% of users "run windows on hardware without decent graphics hardware". So it's entirely reasonable to prioritize these 25.8% of users over the 2.7% on Linux.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by r3bl » Wed, Sep 05, 2018, 4:41 PM UTC

ams6110 wrote: post #65

nine_k wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Recommended by Pocket" is not "Highlights". Yes, I do disable the "recommended" stuff. When I enable "Highlights" on the new tab page, I see pages I spent a lot of time on lately: e.g. OpenWRT recommended hardware page, Coney Island water temperature page, and a page about the Graphwiz format. None of them are related to anything in Pocket (which I also actively use), or, thank goodness, buzzfeed.

I disable absolutely everything on the home page/new tabs. My home page is ~/home.html in all browsers. Thus it's the same in Chrome, FF, w3m, whatever. Much easier than remembering how to set bookmarks/favorites in different browsers and keep them all in sync.

Last time I checked, loading local files as a new tab page required either installing a third party add-on/extension or creating your own[0] in both Firefox and Chrome.

Is that still the case? Did you find an easier option?

[0] Way easier than one would assume, you just need a manifest file next to your HTML file.

EDIT: A local web server instead of loading the HTML file directly also works and avoids the need for add-ons/extensions.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by grumblestumble » Wed, Sep 05, 2018, 4:41 PM UTC

driverdan wrote: post #94

phakding wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would be an example of a "big single page app"?

Google Calendar crushes FF for me. I can't leave it open very long or it slows down FF, eats CPU cycles, and drains my battery.

If you're on OSX and not using the "default for display" resolution, that may be the cause of the issue. Don't have the bugzilla handy, but I stumbled across it at one point and confirmed that that was the culprit for me. Unfortunately, I'm unwilling to use default display res, so I'm hoping that gets fixed soon. Would love to standardize on Firefox for my every day browsing.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by anderspitman » Wed, Sep 05, 2018, 4:41 PM UTC

bratao wrote: post #13

I'm a die-hard Firefox fan. While all my colleagues develop in Chrome, I'm the weird one who uses Firefox and always catches some problem in rendering when testing. But recently I installed an 4K monitor. I use the Latest Windows 10 and have an GTX 1050 graphic card. The Firefox on this resolution is VERY slow. I have no problem in Edge or Chrome. Please, if any dev is around, check this use case.

When FF 52 first came out scrolling felt considerably laggy on my 4k monitors (Arch, i3 window manager, GTX950). It seems to have improved somewhere in the last year. I'm now using Firefox as my daily driver on all my devices.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by cat199 » Wed, Sep 05, 2018, 4:42 PM UTC

css wrote: post #93

wongarsu wrote: post #61

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I currently have 76 tabs open and last closed Firefox approximately 2 days ago. Firefox sits at about 5GB RAM usage and 3% CPU, which I find very acceptable. In my experience Firefox handles a large amount of tabs very well, while Chrome tends to eat a lot more RAM in the same situation (while doing its best to hide that fact). On the other hand there are some websites that will easily demand a gigabyte of RAM on the…

Meanwhile I have an HN tab and a Slack tab and I am sitting at 45% CPU and 1GB RAM...

what happens if you close the slack tab?

don't really think a bloated spa is ff's fault..

my standalone slack on macos takes ~500M

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by bovine3dom » Wed, Sep 05, 2018, 4:44 PM UTC

pretty_dumm_guy wrote: post #84

bovine3dom wrote: post #56

Coinciding with this release, Firefox 52 ESR is no longer supported, so no supported versions of Firefox support the legacy extensions. I'm mentioning this here just so I can tell Vimperator / Pentadactyl / VimFx users that there are loads of options you can replace your old extensions with, some of which are... okay. Links follow in increasing order of user-friendliness: https://github.com/tridactyl/tridactyl [^] ht…

Hey. First I would like to thank you for the awesome work. I really enjoy using your plugin. Being a avid vim user it just makes it more easier right now. I do like to point out few issues that I have noticed so far. 1. key n used to traverse through all the found elements doesn't work properly. 2. The add on doesn't work when I am using pdf preview. I believe I am using the most updated version of the plugin (last c…

1. is probably because you're using a Firefox feature. We don't have a find mode (well, we do, but it's terrible so I left it unbound). Ctrl-G/Ctrl-Shift-G cycle results in the Firefox feature. There are some function keys you can press too but I can't remember them.

2. Yeah. The annoying thing is it used to but apparently that was an oversight and there is some security hole there that Mozilla fixed. Amusingly, they have a secret god-mode permission that they give to their own Screenshot extension that makes it work on PDFs. A chap from OneNote was complaining about lack of PDF access the other day so maybe Mozilla will find some sort of solution.

We could bundle pdf.js with Tridactyl, hijack requests to PDFs and send you to our own reader, but I haven't been annoyed enough to resort to that as I personally just use Okular which is far better at rendering anyway.

Happy to chat in this thread or on Riot.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by james_pm » Wed, Sep 05, 2018, 4:44 PM UTC

andy_ppp wrote: post #100

Is Pocket the only bookmarking service available? Seems a bit off that there is no public interface to this and the Mozilla seem to have some kind of agreement with Pocket?

https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/02/27/mozilla-acquires-po...

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by jancsika » Wed, Sep 05, 2018, 4:45 PM UTC

crtasm wrote: post #92

jancsika wrote: post #60

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about:blank is my favorite web page. I can add any content I want there. Then if it phones home I have only myself to blame.

You can put custom html into about:blank? How do I do that please?

What I mean is adding content dynamically after about:blank loads. You can set contentEditable to "true", inject some innerHTML, use the terrible DOM interface, or make a little JQuery to suit your needs.

You can probably also style about:blank to have whatever you want in it when it loads. I'd imagine that is done differently depending on the browser you're using.

On the other hand, I'm not sure why you'd want to when you can just set your new tab page to a custom page of your choosing.

Edit: clarification

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by da_murvel » Wed, Sep 05, 2018, 4:45 PM UTC

m-p-3 wrote: post #98

nathcd wrote: post #38

> Removed the description field for bookmarks. Users who have stored descriptions using the field may wish to export these descriptions as html or json files, as they will be removed in a future release. Does anyone know if there's an explanation for this somewhere? Between removing live bookmarks (a simple feed reader) and this, it seems like they're paring down user-facing features. I don't think these are the feat…

If they remove tags supports later on, that will be the last useful feature I'm hanging on. The bookmarking system is being downgraded to the point of uselessness, at this point I'd switch back to Chrome.

As long as Chrome is maintained by Google I'd never go back. Heck, I'd even start using IE before I'd turn to Chrome ...

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by nine_k » Wed, Sep 05, 2018, 4:46 PM UTC

fasafsafsf wrote: post #85

nine_k wrote: post #74

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What a progressive company from Mountain View, CA, would be sticking to? I believe it's sort of hard to be right-wing in a place like that, at least publicly. I also suppose that this may be the default for a particular audience / geolocation. That is, maybe they'd show a different thing in Russia (sorry, I don't have a Russian VPN), and maybe even a different thing in Texas. Or maybe something based on your previous…

First, they could be sticking to neutral news . Those exist. Second, I don't believe the source code of the algorithm that picks which news to show you is available... If there's an algorithm at all, because chances are it's curated by humans.

Neutral news? I'd appreciate a few examples (unless it's the paid news agencies feeds).