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Re: Trump Accuses Google of Burying Conservative News in Search Results

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Post by mullingitover » Thu, Aug 30, 2018, 5:32 PM UTC

reversecs wrote: post #107

mullingitover wrote: post #106

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This is really simple, however: Google does not have a monopoly on news.

Maybe not about news, but what about content provided at search, and videos. Youtube and google search. Everything else is dwarfed by Google in that sense.

It still boils down to a first amendment issue: can the government tell Google what it can and can't say? If Google is using its market position illegally, that's one thing, but there's no such thing as an illegal use of its free speech rights (except as legally prohibited, e.g. libel). Google could keep a 'We think Trump is a traitor' banner on every single one of their pages and be within their rights under the Constitution.

Re: Trump Accuses Google of Burying Conservative News in Search Results

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Post by michaelmrose » Thu, Aug 30, 2018, 6:13 PM UTC

repolfx wrote: post #108

michaelmrose wrote: post #50

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Even if news programs report the news in an unbiased fashion people are bound to have personal opinions and express them on their own time. In response to "Writing from America & I can assure you that conservatives will absolutely keep needed medicine out of the hands of those who require it, if you let them" Wouldn't it be a greater crime to ignore this? It seems as if the only reason you don't want a fairness doctr…

I'm not sure what you're getting at there to be honest, especially not with the last comment about peasants? I don't want a fairness doctrine because it clearly is pointless and wouldn't be enforced, thus making it at best a waste of legislative time and at worst a selectively enforced rule; the classic weapon of tyrants everywhere. In theory journalists should be able to separate their personal opinions from their w…

I believe that the conservatives will collectively support people that are in fact acting much like Disney villains because they believe the Disney villains will do the best job of protecting their privileged position in society and their wealth or in the case of poor conservatives the wealth and privilege they imagine they will someday earn.

Re: Trump Accuses Google of Burying Conservative News in Search Results

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Post by yostrovs » Sat, Sep 01, 2018, 4:01 AM UTC

yongjik wrote: post #56

yostrovs wrote: post #10

Try searching for "American inventors" or "American scientists" on Google and tell me if you notice anything odd.

It has a plausible explanation. People searching for Oppenheimer or Gell-Mann don't type "American scientists", they just type "Oppenheimer" and "Gell-Mann". And a website talking about Oppenheimer doesn't spend much time about his being American---after all, that might be the least interesting fact about Oppenheimer's life. OTOH, I'll bet there are websites that talk about, say, "George Washington Carver, an America…

Why aren't there more Scottish American or Italian American or Jewish American inventors in the list though?

Re: Trump Accuses Google of Burying Conservative News in Search Results

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Post by core-questions » Tue, Sep 04, 2018, 6:20 PM UTC

michaelmrose wrote: post #81

core-questions wrote: post #72

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> If google fails its userbase If their userbase can actually tell that they are _being_ failed. I don't know that this is deliberate and not just a result of SEO and ranking algorithms, but if what we see is being influenced, how would we know, and how would we generate enough energy to actually have a significant number of people digitally uproot themselves in order to force Google to respond somehow? > they can sw…

> Happens every 4-8 years and takes a few months. Fairly well-oiled process, at this point. Last time I recall the candidate that would likely have done well for us was cheated in the primary and then the minority elected a criminal with dementia. Before that we had an authoritarian who at least seemed to want to help the country even at the expense of our rights for 8 years. Before that we had an incompetent drunk f…

> Last time I recall the candidate that would likely have done well for us was cheated in the primary

They tried, but he was victorious in the end, in a triumph of democracy.

Wait, who are you talking about?