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YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry

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Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry

#31
post #7

Seems like they're always bitching about something. How about innovating, guys?

How about buying what they have the sole rights to sell, instead of downloading without compensating them? Or just getting something else, which is available freely?

That the artist might not get most of the money, is not an argument, since the artist already signed agreeing to that.

Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry

#32

This doesn't make any sense to me. My impression is that listening to locally stored mp3 files is becoming less and less common in favor of streaming music services.

"Websites dedicated to “stream ripping” music from YouTube represent the biggest threat to the global music business, industry figures have warned...

... estimates suggesting that a third of 16-24-year-olds in the UK have ripped music from the Google-owned platform."

I find the "1 in 3 young people have done it" highly suspect, especially if that estimate comes from "industry figures". Even if that were true, "1 in 3 have done it" doesn't say anything about the frequency at which they do it.

I think this is mostly alarmist, and my personal opinion is that music piracy is in decline in the face of easy and cheap legal alternatives.

Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry

#33
post #18
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Innovation is what you need to do if people don’t want your product. Here, people clearly want the product, so how would innovation help?

I don’t think this is quite correct. “Want to pay for your product” would be more accurate here.

Well, would these people still not want to pay for that product, if paying was the only way to get it?

Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry

#34

Downloading the sound of youtube videos is illegal now?

It has always been illegal.

Both for songs and for regular videos, even vlogs. You don't have the copyright to the recording, the creator of the video (or the owner for the sync/mechanical rights for a piece of music) has.

Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry

#35

The biggest piracy threat to the music industry is my sound card. I can record any sound that comes out of the speakers.

I mean if you can hear it on your PC you can record it regardless with plenty of free open source software.

Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry

#36
post #31
post #7

Seems like they're always bitching about something. How about innovating, guys?

How about buying what they have the sole rights to sell, instead of downloading without compensating them? Or just getting something else, which is available freely? That the artist might not get most of the money, is not an argument, since the artist already signed agreeing to that.

“I’m not saying it’s unfair. I’m saying it won’t work.”

Companies exist to serve their customers. The companies that forget this tend to decline.

Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry

#37
post #15
post #2

You can have my youtube-dl when you pry it from my cold dead hands.

I was just thinking "nobody tell them about youtube-dl"! I wouldn't be surprised if half of these YouTube-to-MP3 sites are using it in the background - why wouldn't they? Should be pretty easy to containerize the program. I actually wonder sometimes how they are able to provide these conversions given progressions in ad-blockers. There is absolutely no way to stop pirating. Long before the internet was fast enough (o…

Usually they will just fetch the YouTube direct mp4 link and redirect to that, in order to save bandwidrh.

Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry

#38
post #34

Downloading the sound of youtube videos is illegal now?

It has always been illegal. Both for songs and for regular videos, even vlogs. You don't have the copyright to the recording, the creator of the video (or the owner for the sync/mechanical rights for a piece of music) has.

Really? I was under the impression that there's no legal distinction between "the website sending you a file and you caching it in memory" and "the website sending you a file and you storing it on your hard drive". (Redistributing the file, or breaking DRM, are different matters.)

Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry

#39
post #26
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was just thinking "nobody tell them about youtube-dl"! I wouldn't be surprised if half of these YouTube-to-MP3 sites are using it in the background - why wouldn't they? Should be pretty easy to containerize the program. I actually wonder sometimes how they are able to provide these conversions given progressions in ad-blockers. There is absolutely no way to stop pirating. Long before the internet was fast enough (o…

I don't think they need to stop pirating so much as hassle people pirating sufficiently that a decent percentage still pay up.

If they'd just make the content available on Spotify, which all of my pirate friendly but otherwise non-technical friends use, they'd have their conversion. Piracy continues to solve the discovery and "listen to just this one song I like" problem that the industry ignores, and until the paid options are as useful as the pirate versions, the battle will continue.

(Also, I'm ignoring some philosophical things: I like to own things and not stream them for bandwidth reasons, and tech folks tend to not like DRM, but the general public doesn't seem to care much about those things.)

Re: YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry

#40
post #30

The biggest piracy threat to the music industry is my sound card. I can record any sound that comes out of the speakers.

Don't say it too loud or they'll replace your ports with some fancy DRM safe stuff.

Like they did with HDMI?
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