You can have my youtube-dl when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
Right? Also I torrent the shit out of things anyway when I need non-potato-tier audio quality.
You can have my Transmission and SkyTorrents over my dead body!
YouTube download sites are “biggest piracy threat” to music industry
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#12Seems like they're always bitching about something. How about innovating, guys?
Innovation is what you need to do if people don’t want your product. Here, people clearly want the product, so how would innovation help?
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#13500 years in the future, when we all have cochlear augmentations:
>Listening to music is the "biggest piracy threat" to music industry
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#14Or their outdated business modal is the biggest threat to their industry. Honestly, my thought on anything like this is 'just go bankrupt and be done with it'. Your business model clearly doesn't work anymore, you may as well just accept it and shut down. Then again, that's my opinion on basically every business complaining to the government about how the internet is taking away their profits/how competitors/startups…
Explain how it's an outdated business model? Content creator (musician, film studio) makes content. They must make money to recoup the costs of making said content so they can (at least) make more of the same content. Are you saying all musicians should just go back to only doing live shows and concerts and give up recording music altogether? This kind of comment just blatantly ignores the fact that there are very re…
For the big labels, most of the money is not going into the costs of making the content itself - most of it is going into marketing, executives, etc. The musicians themselves get a small portion of it.
The model faces some threat due to the shift of musicians moving to do their own marketing themselves without a label, and releasing the music themselves onto services like Bandcamp, or even directly to services such as Amazon, iTunes, etc. The internet has provided a powerful medium to fight against the entrenched interests of the big labels that don't feel like they need to do more for their artists.
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#15You can have my youtube-dl when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
I was just thinking "nobody tell them about youtube-dl"! I wouldn't be surprised if half of these YouTube-to-MP3 sites are using it in the background - why wouldn't they? Should be pretty easy to containerize the program. I actually wonder sometimes how they are able to provide these conversions given progressions in ad-blockers.
There is absolutely no way to stop pirating. Long before the internet was fast enough (or even existing) people were recording songs with phones, copying tapes, ripping records, etc. Anything a human can hear can be recorded. Anything that a human can see can be recorded. It's a losing battle.
There is evidence to suggest it helps improve sales overall [1] [2]. Like most laws, this will probably have the biggest impact on poorer people who can't afford to buy every single at the price point they charge.
[1] https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/eu-study-finds-piracy...
[2] https://cdn.netzpolitik.org/wp-upload/2017/09/displacement_s...
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#16You can have my youtube-dl when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
Right? Also I torrent the shit out of things anyway when I need non-potato-tier audio quality. You can have my Transmission and SkyTorrents over my dead body!
To be completely honest, I can't really tell the difference between a high bit rate MP3 and a WAV file.
For videos I can see the value though, anything below 720 is quite obvious.
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#17you can have my youtube download site any time, what is very important to me is the ability to open web media with VLC and use the nifty tools available, such as recording transcoding and restreaming [yadayadayada]...
... i think youtube itself is the biggest online threat to all internet media...
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#18Seems like they're always bitching about something. How about innovating, guys?
Innovation is what you need to do if people don’t want your product. Here, people clearly want the product, so how would innovation help?
I don’t think this is quite correct. “Want to pay for your product” would be more accurate here.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Right? Also I torrent the shit out of things anyway when I need non-potato-tier audio quality. You can have my Transmission and SkyTorrents over my dead body!
To be completely honest, I can't really tell the difference between a high bit rate MP3 and a WAV file. For videos I can see the value though, anything below 720 is quite obvious.
YouTube audio isn't high quality though... I think it's 128k
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#20Seems like they're always bitching about something. How about innovating, guys?
Innovation is what you need to do if people don’t want your product. Here, people clearly want the product, so how would innovation help?
If the product is DRM-ridden garbage music platforms, vendor lock-in and being forced to buy specific devices, then no, I don't want the product. I want clean MP3 or FLAC downloads, such that I own the product I bought and nobody can take it away from me. That is why I've spent hundreds of dollars (or more? I've lost count) on Bandcamp.com and will continue to do so.