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Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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Re: Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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Post by paulie_a »

craftyguy wrote: post #55
imglorp wrote: post #19

A company I worked for in a $hot_field had some dev servers breached from some IPs in China; they got some of our app's buggy class files and not much more. It's the kind of app you need a bunch of corporate culture to use effectively, so the jars aren't much use. Anyway, a few days later, a bunch of us in our R+D group got LI invites from Chinese recruiters out of the blue. Because of the timing and supposed motivat…

You could troll them.

Adobe had a Photoshop version that got pirated pretty heavily. They used it as an opportunity to identify forum members requesting support..."there is no photoshop 3.5"

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Post by vvanders »

swaggyBoatswain wrote: post #62
toast_coder wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US, Germany, and Japan are all technology leaders. None of those nations leapfrogged into a developed nation by copying others.

uh... Japan was practically given a lot of American Technology right after WWII under Robert Demings. In fact, Toyota is partially the way it is today, thanks to the Ford Assembly Line, but they still paved there own means of success. Germany arguably the same as well, around the same time frame. Can't recall the exact history of what US gave to Germany though, but it was most likely part of the Marshall Plan. US is…

Yeah, This American Life had a great podcast about the NUMMI[1] plant that covers this in great depth. Pretty fascinating stuff.

[1] https://www.thisamericanlife.org/561/nummi-2015

Re: Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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Post by [deleted] »

faitswulff wrote: post #4

I found it interesting that the espionage is largely aimed at the private sector and not the government: > About 70 percent of China’s overall espionage is aimed at the U.S. private sector, rather than the government, said Joshua Skule, the head of the FBI’s intelligence division, which is charged with countering foreign espionage in the United States. > “They are conducting economic espionage at a rate that is unpar…

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Re: Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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Post by scottlegrand2 »

394549 wrote: post #80
scottlegrand2 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At which point that's just the cycle of karma closing the loop, no?

> At which point that's just the cycle of karma closing the loop, no? You misunderstand. No one cares about Alice's personal life, karma, or happiness. All they care about is manipulating Alice and what a manipulated Alice might do. Alice's desire to hide her cheating from her spouse could lead Bob's trade secrets to getting stolen. Bob did nothing wrong here to have his "cycle of karma closing the loop."

Never give Alice your passwords and always have a lock code on your cell phone. Anything else is a moral hazard in my opinion. Bob is complicit in this case IMO.

If my spouse were to attempt to extract data from my work laptop she would run smack-dab into my password. If on the other hand Bob has extracted highly confidential data onto a freely available machine, then Bob is not only complicit, Bob is culpable. Don't be Bob.

If we take this further and Bob's employer made it that easy to extract highly confidential data then they are their own worst enemy.

For example, if a foolish Google employee attempts to stalk an ex-partners confidential data from within Google, they will be terminated and escorted out of the building within 60 minutes. Be like Google here.

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Post by rhizome »

ryanmarsh wrote: post #23

Anyone contacted by China and considering an offer of money under the table for a small "harmless" disclosure should remember that they killed at least 12 CIA sources between 2010 and 2012 [0] State craft is not for amateurs and sources on both sides routinely get hung out to dry. Think of your family. Do not play this game. 0: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/20/world/asia/china-cia-spie...

they killed at least 12 CIA sources between 2010 and 2012

Here and elsewhere in the comments, it's interesting that those stats are always presented one-sided.

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Post by GW150914 »

rhizome wrote: post #95
ryanmarsh wrote: post #23

Anyone contacted by China and considering an offer of money under the table for a small "harmless" disclosure should remember that they killed at least 12 CIA sources between 2010 and 2012 [0] State craft is not for amateurs and sources on both sides routinely get hung out to dry. Think of your family. Do not play this game. 0: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/20/world/asia/china-cia-spie...

they killed at least 12 CIA sources between 2010 and 2012 Here and elsewhere in the comments, it's interesting that those stats are always presented one-sided.

That’s an odd thing to say in reply to someone who said, State craft is not for amateurs and sources on both sides routinely get hung out to dry.

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Post by oh_sigh »

monocasa wrote: post #40
oh_sigh wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being familiar with a machine, and taking that knowledge elsewhere seems qualitatively different from wholesale copying of documents and blueprints.

> He learned of the American interest in developing similar machines, and he was also aware of British laws against exporting the designs. He therefore memorized as much as he could and departed for New York in 1789. Textile mills at the time were the modern day equivalent of semiconductor foundries. I dare you to try something like that today and see what happens to you.

You're allowed to walk away from a job and retain the knowledge you learned in that job.

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Post by oh_sigh »

scarejunba wrote: post #44
oh_sigh wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being familiar with a machine, and taking that knowledge elsewhere seems qualitatively different from wholesale copying of documents and blueprints.

This is really nothing different from Anthony Lewandowski and friends.

It would be more like if Uber hired levandowski and he didn't (allegedly) walk away with gigabytes of info and only walked with what was in his own head

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Post by [deleted] »

taobility wrote: post #87
projectramo wrote: post #45

New jobs program: you pretend to have all kinds of heavy duty intel, let the Chinese government hire you and then milk the new position for all it is worth. Could be a thriller, but I would pitch this one as a comedy.

Interesting. From most Chinese prospect, American are stereotyped as naive, simple, and most time they are easy to be cheated.

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