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Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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Re: Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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Why? That's the proven strategy to leapfrog yourself into a developed economy. It's what the US, Germany, and Japan all did.

The US, Germany, and Japan are all technology leaders. None of those nations leapfrogged into a developed nation by copying others.

Funny story, heavy industry in the US was started by a guy who, realizing the British would check his luggage for documents, memorized all the plans and ideas he stole.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Cabot_Lowell

Re: Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? That's the proven strategy to leapfrog yourself into a developed economy. It's what the US, Germany, and Japan all did.

The US, Germany, and Japan are all technology leaders. None of those nations leapfrogged into a developed nation by copying others.

In addition to what others have said, the Merchandise Marks of Act 1887 was passed in Britain to require all foreign made items to have a country of origin listed. This was mainly so that British consumers could see that something was a cheap German knockoff.

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I found it interesting that the espionage is largely aimed at the private sector and not the government: > About 70 percent of China’s overall espionage is aimed at the U.S. private sector, rather than the government, said Joshua Skule, the head of the FBI’s intelligence division, which is charged with countering foreign espionage in the United States. > “They are conducting economic espionage at a rate that is unpar…

China has a large enough population that they could literally assign a dedicated spy for every single American and still have a billion people left over.

Re: Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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This reminds of a story I read a while back about India's spy agency (RAW) allegedly kidnapping a retired Lt. Colonel from Pakistan's spy agency (ISI) in Nepal using his LinkedIn information as a 'job bait'. From [1]:

> The complainant alleges that some months ago a person called Mark Thomas called his father on his phone number 033434443 from a number in the UK 0044-7451722 and offered him a job at the Strategic Solutions Consultancy firm.

> It now transpires that Lt Col Zahir had put up his bio-data on LinkedIn and some other websites seeking a job opportunity three years after he retired from the Pakistan army.

In short, LinkedIn's data is very, very valuable.

[1] - https://www.indiatoday.in/mail-today/story/pakistan-media-ra...

Re: Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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I found it interesting that the espionage is largely aimed at the private sector and not the government: > About 70 percent of China’s overall espionage is aimed at the U.S. private sector, rather than the government, said Joshua Skule, the head of the FBI’s intelligence division, which is charged with countering foreign espionage in the United States. > “They are conducting economic espionage at a rate that is unpar…

I think that in China, the separation between government and private business activities is quite fuzzy and the Chinese are ok with treating their intel resources in the same fuzzy manner.

Re: Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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Think of a scenario where certain government employees have accounts on some Private sector service: Maybe a Grindr or Tinder -- if they can work to obtain any sort of compromising information from those services - they can then use it to manipulate government employees ("Do what I say, or i'll out you")... In fact, pretty sure a Chinese co. recently obtained controlling interest of Grindr. https://www.nytimes.com/20…

We can inoculate ourselves to this threat by not caring about what politicians, government workers, and other people in general do in their private romantic lives.

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The US, Germany, and Japan are all technology leaders. None of those nations leapfrogged into a developed nation by copying others.

A counterexample: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Slater

Being familiar with a machine, and taking that knowledge elsewhere seems qualitatively different from wholesale copying of documents and blueprints.

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Honestly, I’d do anything to die in the hellish fury of a nuclear blast, as it destroys an entire city. I was really disappointed in Kim Jong Un caving on his threats. I’ll do anything to ratchet up tensions and provoke a nuclear exchange. Where do I sign up?

So much edge I cut myself

HN may hate novelty accounts, but I vote we keep this one around for the grins.

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There are so many unintended consequences of the internet as we know it today. This, fake news, forums that close because their moderators don't want to cope with the terrible stuff, and on and on. When it was just computer science departments and a few tech companies, it was mostly OK. With a good portion of humanity online... wow.

I remember the internet in 90s being full of spam, popups that would crash your computer and viruses everywhere. Even before mass adoption it was still a cesspool. I am envious of anyone who got to experience the internet in its infancy

Eh, until the very late 90s it wasn't that bad. After the dot com bust things got especially bad.

Re: Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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A counterexample: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Slater

Being familiar with a machine, and taking that knowledge elsewhere seems qualitatively different from wholesale copying of documents and blueprints.

> He learned of the American interest in developing similar machines, and he was also aware of British laws against exporting the designs. He therefore memorized as much as he could and departed for New York in 1789.

Textile mills at the time were the modern day equivalent of semiconductor foundries. I dare you to try something like that today and see what happens to you.

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