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Re: Show HN: Quetree – A Q&A site that is tree-based and hierarchical

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1) Well done for shipping! That is a huge achievement! 2) (For future projects) IMHO It's not advisable to work for "years" on a project without showing it to end users. It's basically a big guess. For best results make sure to start building your audience from the start. Even before you code anything. When you pick an idea to focus on, if you can't build some kind of list of people interested in it just from a landi…

The call to action to download the copyhackers book doesn't work for me. Any other way of getting it?

1) Go to: https://copyhackers.com/

2) Hover over "New here"

3) Click copywriting ebooks.

Re: Show HN: Quetree – A Q&A site that is tree-based and hierarchical

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1) Well done for shipping! That is a huge achievement! 2) (For future projects) IMHO It's not advisable to work for "years" on a project without showing it to end users. It's basically a big guess. For best results make sure to start building your audience from the start. Even before you code anything. When you pick an idea to focus on, if you can't build some kind of list of people interested in it just from a landi…

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Yes thank you very much for detailed and helpful comment. You are very right in your well written points. Discovered “The Lean Startup” book only very late in the game lol. But I doubt it would have changed our course much since we are true rebels and any Tried and Proven Strategy is probably not exciting enough ;) ! Thanks again and have a great day!

Re: Show HN: Quetree – A Q&A site that is tree-based and hierarchical

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Interesting project, so each question can spawn sub questions, is that the tree? Also looks good, but it's very hard to use on mobile.

Thank you kindly! Yes hopefully can build a mobile app soon! The current design did not lend itself easily to mobile screens.

There is a saying in the graphics industry, "Output drives process." Always design with the output in mind. As this is a project that took years to create I can see how designing with responsive in mind could be overlooked or put on the back-burner. That being said, it will be a thorny bush to prune doing it later rather than sooner. Good luck.

Re: Show HN: Quetree – A Q&A site that is tree-based and hierarchical

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Community building is the most noble project on the Internet, and this is a unique attempt to organize it further. Communities, not software or commerce or entertainment, is what the Internet was motivated from in the 90's and will be the most remembered aspect in 50 years, so it is important to create experimental community harbors like these to possibly incubate future massive projects. However, I am curious why yo…

Thank you for your very intelligent, thought provoking and inspiring comment. Building a great community around knowledge is the dream. And I really appreciate your curiousities!

About voting: we really thought really hard about this very hard thing and it is a very hard problem to solve. As you said earlier, we need more experimental communities to really be sure as there may be limited unadulterated evidence as to its effectiveness currently. But we looked at review sites as a guide - they seem to work pretty good. So the argument is: if people can help each other choose products or services they could theoretically also help with choosing ideas. But we know its not as easy as that.

We are starting by catering to the good members, those with only good intentions and not to game the system, and then to worry about how the bad or unsuspecting ones can spoil it for everyone. So given such a group of good members we thought it more beneficial for everyone if each person could make it easier for the next one by making a good choice and voting up. It would be better to use their time and efforts. This is contrasting to where no one is trusted and each person has to start from the beginning and go through all choices thus not benefitting from the time and thoughts spent by those who went through the same thing before.

But you hit at a deeper problem here which is really really hard to answer: how do you make something popular while giving equal importance to every other thing. By giving something precedence, e.g. calling it a better apple, aren’t you by definition making all the other apples worser? And if you call all of them equal then do you do justice to the already ripe ones?

But this problem really kept us up at nights: what will happen to the the poor and specially bright genius who can achieve transcendental insights but is against huge hoards who simply “don’t get it”. Because it is indeed a beautiful aspect of humankind. And that brings us to your last point - namely the supporting, conflicting feature. That one was designed with this very thing in mind. So that the inspired can create a conflicting idea to what has been accepted by the majority - and those who see that there is a conflicting answers to the prevailing accepted one, will hopefully take a closer look then and then spend more time deciding. Those who voted earlier on the prevailing one can change their minds and vote on the new insightful one and slowly the acceptance rating will sway to the new one as will the ranking and medals (it is all implemented already). A big part of Quetree is identify what is the popularly accepted so that we at least know if that needs to change and have a shot at changing it. Quetree is incepted to may be help change what is popular to take us closer to a world where the majority is wiser and more adaptive.

But the supporting and conflicting feature is not meant to quadratically complicate answering - it is served as an extra feature to be used when needed as exampled above but is safely tucked away hidden, and have to be expanded to use.

To address your other good point about hierarchy, that one is truly experimental. The idea is to encourage the path towards hierarchy-izing ideas and may be even over-hierarchy-izing them over over-hierarchy-izing men and kings that us humans have been doing naturally for eons. If we can have a hierarchy of ideas we can constructly move them around (ideal mobilization vs social mobilization ;), they won’t mind nor fight back, unlike the kings or authoritative figures who hold on for dear life.

I like how your brain thinks and I suspect we could’ve hung around and have long philosophical conversations that would be both enjoyable and inspiring. Please keep in touch, thanks and have a great day!

Re: Show HN: Quetree – A Q&A site that is tree-based and hierarchical

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I think we need something like this, but I'm not sure if this is the answer. This type of tree-like Q&A would be good for problem solving, e.g. "How to save the oceans?" -> "How to save the oceans from plastics?" -> "How to harvest the plastics from the oceans?" -> "How to use AI to sort out different plastic types?" (obviously I can't sketch here the multitude of branches I'd like). You know, wiki for problem solvin…

Thank you so much for that as it is really well thought out and it is so refreshing to find someone instantly "get it"! I would like to personally invite you to create those questions sometime in Quetree and then we can figure out how to invite the whole global community to solve them! But please do keep in touch as it is very valuable to have people aligned with our vision from the very beginning! With help from people like you we hope to reach out to a broader audience and once we do, who better to help run things than those who were there from the start. Thanks again for your valuable input and hope to communicate with you again soon!

Re: Show HN: Quetree – A Q&A site that is tree-based and hierarchical

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Nice work. A few thoughts came to mind after reading other comments. I wonder how the tree concept works when responses are long or short. It seems to me that short would encourage more of a "ping pong" style thread which may be desirable in a tree form instead of a long-form question and reply. It may be interesting and enjoyable to contribute to a site if there was a short length constraint placed on the reply. For…

Thank you kindly Joebo and thank you for your awesome ideas. In fact we have thought about this exact thing, and there is a set height to the answer window to encourage short answers beyond which the users will have to scroll down and there is a page numbering system to show you how many pages there are/are left. We didn't go all the way and put a hard limit though but it is a very interesting idea and will see if others like it as well. The idea of the competition for succinct bullseye answers is also awesome! Since answers can be voted up and those with long answers requiring the scrolling may not be read as much or questioned more, there is an indirect route to this end effect currently implemented but may need improving. Please check it out and give feedback if possible.

Ah the "curse of knowledge"! That is such a bulls eye, home run, out of the park, spot on, accurate assessment and perfect read on your part! The curse of knowledge alienates most of the brightest minds from the rest us which is really sad and simple access to structured questioning could help remedy that age old problem.

As far as I remember the "five whys" should end in a feeling. Right now I feel really energized and inspired by your input since I now know that there are those out there like you who I really need and hope will get directly involved in helping this thing grow in the right direction! Do please keep in touch will ya!?

Re: Show HN: Quetree – A Q&A site that is tree-based and hierarchical

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The call to action to download the copyhackers book doesn't work for me. Any other way of getting it?

1) Go to: https://copyhackers.com/ 2) Hover over "New here" 3) Click copywriting ebooks.

Or email me! joanna at copyhackers dot com. happy to provide ebooks to the HN community! and thanks. :)

Re: Show HN: Quetree – A Q&A site that is tree-based and hierarchical

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I'm struggling to understand what you're going for and how this hierarchical Q&A format is supposed to work. 1) Your example in the video is too contrived. 2) I haven't seen one Q&A thread that actually illustrates your concept ... meaning others aren't getting it either.

You were very right macspoofing, the video was watched to the end by only a handful of the people and have been removed. The video was a bad idea in hindsight since those who could've got a feel for the sight by using it for themselves and then given an opinion about it never did. And now that chance to get the smart people here to do that is gone. But thanks for your input and have a great day!
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