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Post by lozenge »

Reedx wrote: post #89
DonHopkins wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm shocked, I say shocked, that something from Magic Leap could possibly be said to reek of marketing. You should spend the next six minutes and seventeen seconds of your life watching this amazing piece of public relations magic that transparently unveils the deep truth of what Magic Leap is really all about: The synthesis of imagination: Rony Abovitz and Magic Leap at TEDxSarasota https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w…

I don't understand how Magic Leap thought this was worthwhile. Nor do I understand how TEDx thought it was an idea worth spreading. Can anyone explain the logic behind it on both sides?

TEDx are independently run events riding on the TED brand (with permission). Basically what Forbes Online is to Forbes.

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Post by dzhiurgis »

sspyder wrote: post #108
sharkweek wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know they barely count, but there was a whole slough of little cardboard boxes you could like... slide your phone into and "experience a 360 VR environment" that seemed like MVPs to me.

AR is an order of magnitude harder than VR because of overlaying visuals on top of a view instead replacing/blocking it.

On flip side you need 60-120 fps for VR to make it look real. 30 fps and you get sick.

Where as on AR you can tolerate even 15fps without getting sick.

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Post by thefounder »

cglace wrote: post #92
thefounder wrote: post #78

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Of course people will tolerate glasses(more or less smart) if the experience is worth it. I don't think people ever enjoyed carrying things around(laptops, tablets, smartphones etc) but they do. They don't really like big loudspeakers or TVs or tv setup boxes either still they buy them. I would replace both my laptop and my smartphone with a pair of glasses anytime(if it would be possible).

Why does this technology have to replace laptops and smartphones? Smartphones and tablets didn't replace keyboards. They are good at somethings and laptops/desktops are good at others.

Smartphones and tablets replaced laptops and PCs entirely for many people and partially for the rest. You have a limited amount of time and budget, that's why it has to replace a current device(smartphone, laptop, tv). These devices already got all our time.

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Post by turbojerry »

eganist wrote: post #62
40acres wrote: post #50

It's interesting reading startup literature regarding MVPs and iterating quickly and notice that almost none of it applies to the AR/VR space. Between Magic Leap and Ubiquty6 it seems like the most interesting players in AR are more notable for their funding rounds than for anything else. Magic Leap is rolling out their own hardware so it's more understandable but its really hard to justify spending $2K on a first ge…

> ultimately too expensive and too late Their only (admittedly public) rival in the space is Microsoft, and adoption of HoloLens even as a developer platform hasn't exactly been groundbreaking. There are still many laps left 'til the finish line.

There are more rivals than Microsoft e.g.-

https://www.osterhoutgroup.com/home

https://www.vuzix.com

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/805968217/mix-the-small...

https://www.epson.co.uk/products/see-through-mobile-viewer/m...

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Post by jonnydubowsky »

dmode wrote: post #52

Magic Leap raised boatloads of money, which game me the impression that they are really building something mass market that can be useful for most people in this world. I am not into gaming and have kids, so cannot wear AR glasses in my home and walk around. Are there use cases for Magic Leap that support non gamers ? Or is it mostly a niche product like an Oculus ?

I'm cautiously optimistic about using this for data visualizations in AR. I've messed around with genomic models using Hololense and have found that AR works better then VR in a lab or collaborative environment where there is benefit to seeing others while looking at the same augmented reality. I'm curious if this will be better for medical imaging and other biological sequence visualizations (then Holo lense). Better in this case would translate to more accurate tracking of my eyes, interaction with the built environment, and higher quality resolution. I still am yearning for a AR experience that let's me walk through my databases and interact a la Minority Report or my personal favorite movie-reference to VR "Disclosure" featuring Michael Douglas and Demi Moore https://youtu.be/dJcakDNtHDA

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Post by jonnydubowsky »

joezydeco wrote: post #12
smaili wrote: post #5

> We created a new kind of computer so we built a whole new operating system. One that gets the most out of our spatial computing system by working in tandem with digital lightfields and the brain. Lumin OS is fully optimized for environment recognition, persistent digital content and the performance to power high-fidelity visual experiences that turns your wildest imagination into even wilder realities. Super curiou…

"Magic Leap says they have “built a whole new operating system” called LuminOS to take advantage of their “spatial computing system“. It is actually just Android with custom stuff on top, the same approach most people take when they want to claim they have built a whole operating system... I hope Magic Leap does cool stuff in the future, but the current UI is basically an Android Wear watch menu that floats in front…

This is a great read. Thanks for posting!my favorite quote, "The ML1 is a not a “lightfield projector” or display by any broadly accepted definition, and as a Bi-Focal Display, only solves vergence-accommodation conflict in contrived demos that put all UI and environmental elements at one of two focus planes. Mismatch occurs at all other depths. In much the same way, a broken clock displays the correct time twice a day."

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Post by Razengan »

arnaudsm wrote: post #123
Razengan wrote: post #115

Chiming in on the questions regarding use cases etc.: Aside from letting artists and engineers paint/sculpt/model more intuitively in 3D space, I still believe that the killer app for VR on the consumer side would be virtual tourism. Coming full circle to the View-Master [0], except this time people could practically live in their favorite fantasy or sci-fi locations. Imagine being part of the crew on the USS Enterpr…

I'm skeptic about virtual tourism. We already have 4K HDR screens that display gorgeous pictures, but people still go to the museum to admire paintings. Tourism is more of a social act than a content-consumption one. People brag when they go to the museum, but never when they binge-watch paintings at 3 AM on the Internet.

Most people travel to relax, explore and feel better, not to brag.

Why do you think people consume porn instead of having the real thing?

Society still treats travel and vacations as an extravagant, frivolous activity to be "earned", rather than one of the fundamental joys of life which should be regularly experienced.

Also, visiting fictional places will only be possible through virtual tourism, or fantasy tourism if you will.

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Post by rpdillon »

jessedhillon wrote: post #71
rpdillon wrote: post #55

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Is an Oculus niche? I brought my Go on a family vacation last month, and after trying it on, both my sisters wanted one. Neither are people I would say have ever gamed much before, but after they experienced it, they were sold.

Did they end up buying their own VR gear then? My sister said she loved Star Wars after watching episode III in theaters, but still hasn't seen any of the others.

They both put it on their gift lists for the rest of the family to chip in on around the holidays. =)
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