I’m having a hard time caring about the policies of either of these terrible companies.
Maybe so, but please don't post unsubstantive comments to Hacker News.
Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's the other way around. Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions? As the years march on, I think we'll see more and more data protection laws in favor of users rather than companies. Data is the new uranium, not the new oil. It needs to be protected and taken seriously. You can argue that it's Facebook's site and that they can do whatever they want. I argue that they c…
> Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions Why would they not have the right to control content posted on their platform? If someone lets me and all my friends communicate by posting signs on their front lawn for free, should they have an obligation to keep my signs on their lawn until I decide to remove it? Saying it causes emotional harm is a pretty weak defense. Basica…
FB might not have that right, in practice, if the poster feels that their posts are their own.
My "wall" is not generally referred to as "FB's wall documenting ISL's interaction with friends", but rather, "ISL's wall".
If a society believes a thing to be true, it will tend to vote in politicians to make it so, whether it is presently contractually written that way or not.
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's the other way around. Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions? As the years march on, I think we'll see more and more data protection laws in favor of users rather than companies. Data is the new uranium, not the new oil. It needs to be protected and taken seriously. You can argue that it's Facebook's site and that they can do whatever they want. I argue that they c…
> Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions Why would they not have the right to control content posted on their platform? If someone lets me and all my friends communicate by posting signs on their front lawn for free, should they have an obligation to keep my signs on their lawn until I decide to remove it? Saying it causes emotional harm is a pretty weak defense. Basica…
If it becomes an established practice, over several decades... probably?
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's wrong with GMail? Google stopped mining it last year: https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in...
> What's wrong with GMail? > Google stopped mining it last year: https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in... . Google stopped mining it for ads, but it's disingenuous to say they stopped mining, period [0]. How do you think those Gmail suggested replies are generated? [0]: https://variety.com/2017/digital/news/google-gmail-ads-email...
> Smart Reply uses neural networks to figure out the main intent of an email, and then suggest short and adequate responses. It’s an incredibly useful feature, it works surprisingly well — and it clearly requires for Google’s computers to “read” your email.
Would you stop using Protonmail if they offered the same feature?
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#155I'm sick of hearing about Facebook all the time and I'm sick of seeing the same old recycled opinions of why people dislike or like Facebook every time Facebook sneezes. Facebook is not that interesting, and it's barely even academically interesting. It's a half-trillion dollar joke, laugh while it's still funny.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions Why would they not have the right to control content posted on their platform? If someone lets me and all my friends communicate by posting signs on their front lawn for free, should they have an obligation to keep my signs on their lawn until I decide to remove it? Saying it causes emotional harm is a pretty weak defense. Basica…
If it becomes an established practice, over several decades... probably?
Over several decades, they definitely do have that obligation. With just signs, it'd be hard to make a case for adverse possession, but easy to make the case for an easement.
If you're a little more permissive and let someone live in a little hut on your lawn, then after several decades, they'll own the lawn, and you won't.
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#157FTA:
"In theory, the API changes should only have prevented Twitter users from continuing to cross-post their tweets to Facebook automatically. It shouldn’t have also deleted the existing posts from Facebook users’ profiles and business users’ Facebook Pages."
oops
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#159Always test migrations before running in production!
Either this has been fixed, or my account hat not yet been affected.
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#160This is pretty crazy. For people whose job is social media, this is basically the equivalent of Github just arbitrarily deciding they're going to delete all of your startup's source code without telling anyone in advance, or like Google Docs just deciding to disappear all your spreadsheets. With only a couple months until election season, Facebook is now literally editing politician's pages and deleting the campaign…
Except for Github, every person using it has a copy of the repo and they can restore it. But for Facebook, only Facebook has the copy, and if it's deleted you're done. That's why Facebook is a terrible social platform, at least for social interactions that happen more than in one minute. Older social sites - like forums, etc. - had archives, could be backed up, etc. - but on Facebook, not only you can't properly hold a discussion, but everything you wrote can be removed at any time without any notice.