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I must be naive, because I cannot think of any political topic I would be discussing at work. How is this intolerance of right-wing ideology being expressed? What views specifically are being not-tolerated? Without these specifics, it's hard to understand the problem.
The comments in this thread are shocking, Inquisition level stuff. I can't believe I spend time here. Remember when HN was tech stuff? Now it's: manfredo 16 minutes ago The following views were listed on the memo: * Support of President Trump (e.g. This and Palmer Lucky's campaign contributions) * "All lives matter" * Criticism of Islam's human rights record. * Calling the company's art politically radical . Which, i…
I can see a possibility where manfredo's perspective is genuinely naive of context surrounding of his first three bullet points, and may not be acting in bad faith - and I can see a possibility where brainkim's real feelings aren't as hard-line as the shortened, perhaps understandably heated version. To call these comments "inquisition level", and potentially ignorant of the catastrophic history of suppressing dissen…
When intelligent animals pay their lives for their presence on your plate, then your dinner choice is no longer an entirely personal decision.
> intelligent Not enough to matter, if at all, because they still can only qualify as ... > animals ... and therefore are not due even vaguely similar rights/considerations as people .
And it has been my experience that people who have politics "happen" to them from "the moment [they] wake up to the moment [they] sleep" in large part simply perceive that to be their existence. I have read countless articles and posts at this point claiming that "America doesn't care about black bodies" and that black people in America should "fear for their lives every day," all in regards to the perceived danger o…
Except one doesn't have to fear being killed by the police to be wary of them. The fact is that POC are arrested disproportionately to their population size. Being incarcerated is enough to cut your chances of a job offer or a call back by %50[1]. There are many underlying reasons as to why POC people are arrested more, including remnants of systemic oppression, but that is another argument for another time. It's eas…
Worked across very liberal and very conservative places in tech. Neither is pleasant. In my opinion, the American self-image and self-worth largely characterized by subscription to a political ideology is the problem. What bothers me is not dress codes,free meals,open offices,etc... But the very idea that a company would display or promote politics in the work place. Why are companies promoting "pride",donating to tr…
Your mistake is in thinking that you can separate out politics from "work" or any other concept. What you fail to realize is that everything is political. Everything. Politics isn't some concrete, easily identifiable thing you can point at. You can't separate out things into a "Politics" bucket and a "Not Politics" bucket. No, politics pervades every single human interaction. Politics is in everything and everything…
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Part of American conservatism is the moderate but solid consensus that homosexuality is morally wicked. Some people want to stay true to their convictions, rather than ignore the moral deviancy of the world. Some people truly believe that homosexuality is a danger to children and the spiritual health of society. Sometimes they feel like they can't speak out against homosexuality just because they work at a liberal wo…
Your understanding of conservatism is profoundly stereotypical and incorrect.
Did that not serve to rally the American conservative base? Is Alex Jones not representative of effective (meaning the kind that wins elections) conservatism? Isn't Alex Jones, perhaps the #1 most popular media personality of today, being censored part of the reason why people are concerned?
This has become a big problem. Look at WeWork. That company banned employees from expensing meals that happened to have non-fish meat. I can't think of something more personal than what people choose to eat. They are imposing their beliefs about diet on employees. It's full blown coercion. Some companies are taking the activism a bit too far.
It should be noted that many views espoused by what Americans call 'liberals' or 'left-leaning' people are in fact the mainstream in the EU (such as issues about abortion, gun control, death penalty, healthcare, and so on) and commonly accepted by almost all parties except what we'd call 'far-right' ones. So I'm wondering: when those articles pop up calling the tech world/the Valley/company X a 'liberal monoculture'…
> It should be noted that many views espoused by what Americans call 'liberals' or 'left-leaning' people are in fact the mainstream in the EU (such as issues about abortion, gun control, death penalty, healthcare, and so on) and commonly accepted by almost all parties except what we'd call 'far-right' ones. That's a massive oversimplification: * Ireland only recently legalized abortion, which has been legal in the Un…
* Women only achieved the federal vote in Switzerland in 1971, and the for local votes the last hold-out was forced to acquiesce by the Supreme Court only in 1991.
* There is no country in Europe with abortion laws as permissive as those in the United States (or Canada, but that's it's own strange case). Portugal didn't legalize abortion until 2007, and it is only available on-demand up until the 10th week. Abortion is still illegal in Ireland (in the process of reform after last May's referendum). In Germany abortion-on-demand is only legal in the first 12 weeks, and requires mandatory counselling with a 3-day waiting period.
* While no EU states practice the death penalty because it is a condition of membership, majorities in France, the Baltics, Czech Republic, and several Eastern European countries still [support it](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/55sze2/support_for...), and in the UK support was up around 70% less than a decade ago. Current support for the death penalty in the US has registered as between 49 and 55% in the last few years. Not totally out of line in terms of public opinion, though there are more states that have the death penalty in the US obviously.
* I was stunned to be in a German class in Berlin with students from several EU countries, most of them in their early 20s, and also be the only one present who had no problem with homosexual adoption, which was most stridently opposed by representatives of catholic countries. I was the only North American.
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One could argue that "black lives matter" is exclusory to all other races. "All lives matter" is often meant as a means to include the rest of the population (and thus, have better chances of creating change). It's viable to argue that sticking with the former is worth the exclusive rhetoric because Black people suffer disproportionately. But the notion of actually _firing_ someone over using "all lives matter" as th…
No, one could not argue that in any seriousness. All Lives Matter is being used primarily as an attempt to diminish Black Lives Matter.
For what it's worth, I approve of both "all lives matter" and "black lives matter" since both are working towards positive goals, they only differ in specificity. I do, however, disapprove of trying to pressure people into substituting the latter with the former or vice versa.
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"tolerance" swings both ways. Unless you choose to be intolerant. The majority of people who spout tolerance and acceptance at me are the least tolerant and acceptant of other beliefs.
> "tolerance" swings both ways. It doesn't, which is the "paradox of tolerance".[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
It hands people an excuse on a silver platter to exercise their bigotry.
People who have a moral excuse to engage in evil are almost always the most dangerous and evilest of the bunch.