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We are rewriting CodeMirror

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Re: We are rewriting CodeMirror

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Post by spankalee »

tokyodude wrote: post #18

I have to ask what is probably a dumb question. Why? I used CodeMirror on three projects. It was great. Now I use Monaco aka Visual Studio Code. What would CodeMirror offer ? With Monaco I get all the lastest feature of VSCode . Current versions of Monaco include Intellisense etc.. I'm honestly curious both what CodeMirror will offer and why even try to compete. Though I'm guessing the answer to the first question an…

CodeMirror's existing code base is really clean and easy to understand, and it loads as native JS modules. It's good to have multiple projects in a similar area, and I'm excited about this rewrite as an embedder.

Re: We are rewriting CodeMirror

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Post by yesimahuman »

tokyodude wrote: post #18

I have to ask what is probably a dumb question. Why? I used CodeMirror on three projects. It was great. Now I use Monaco aka Visual Studio Code. What would CodeMirror offer ? With Monaco I get all the lastest feature of VSCode . Current versions of Monaco include Intellisense etc.. I'm honestly curious both what CodeMirror will offer and why even try to compete. Though I'm guessing the answer to the first question an…

Monaco isn't exactly the easiest editor to extend. For those wanting to do custom editor functionality, it still feels like there's a ton of room for other implementations.

Re: We are rewriting CodeMirror

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Post by adrianheine »

tokyodude wrote: post #18

I have to ask what is probably a dumb question. Why? I used CodeMirror on three projects. It was great. Now I use Monaco aka Visual Studio Code. What would CodeMirror offer ? With Monaco I get all the lastest feature of VSCode . Current versions of Monaco include Intellisense etc.. I'm honestly curious both what CodeMirror will offer and why even try to compete. Though I'm guessing the answer to the first question an…

For one thing, monaco doesn't even try to work on mobile browsers.

Re: We are rewriting CodeMirror

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Post by draw_down »

tokyodude wrote: post #18

I have to ask what is probably a dumb question. Why? I used CodeMirror on three projects. It was great. Now I use Monaco aka Visual Studio Code. What would CodeMirror offer ? With Monaco I get all the lastest feature of VSCode . Current versions of Monaco include Intellisense etc.. I'm honestly curious both what CodeMirror will offer and why even try to compete. Though I'm guessing the answer to the first question an…

It sounds like what you’re really asking is why another editor besides VS Code should exist. And I’m hoping everyone else finds the answer to that question as obvious as I do.

Re: We are rewriting CodeMirror

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Post by adrianheine »

tnolet wrote: post #11
marijn wrote: post #2

Oh hi, I'm Marijn, one of the maintainers. It doesn't look like this submission is going anywhere, but I'll keep an eye on the comments and respond to questions.

Hi Marijn, I rely on CodeMirror for a SaaS I run (from Berlin). I will donate what I can. Just one question and please don’t take this the wrong way, but can you provide an insight into how you got to 80k as the target amount?

It's roughly what the two of us need (in addition to regular donations and support contracts) to be able to work on this for one year. We expect a year to be enough time for stabilizing the core and porting some essential plugins.

Re: We are rewriting CodeMirror

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Post by adrianheine »

brainkim wrote: post #10
marijn wrote: post #2

Oh hi, I'm Marijn, one of the maintainers. It doesn't look like this submission is going anywhere, but I'll keep an eye on the comments and respond to questions.

I’m currently in the process of writing a codemirror mode for a language I’m working on, is the way codemirror modes are written/used gonna change substantially? Should I hold off on this work? I’m glad to see you’re focusing on accessibility!

Modes implemented against the current interface will be supported by a plugin. We are definitely planning on providing a better interface for highlighting eventually, but that will take some time.

Re: We are rewriting CodeMirror

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Post by marijn »

tokyodude wrote: post #18

I have to ask what is probably a dumb question. Why? I used CodeMirror on three projects. It was great. Now I use Monaco aka Visual Studio Code. What would CodeMirror offer ? With Monaco I get all the lastest feature of VSCode . Current versions of Monaco include Intellisense etc.. I'm honestly curious both what CodeMirror will offer and why even try to compete. Though I'm guessing the answer to the first question an…

CodeMirror aims to be slimmer, and less of a cut-off piece of vs code. I also think our API is more well designed and expressive. And, as Adrian mentioned below, though he got downvoted, CodeMirror works on phones

Re: We are rewriting CodeMirror

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Post by marijn »

leeoniya wrote: post #7
marijn wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's underspecified and very hard to implement (and hence, not implemented all that well), but if you know the pitfalls (only some DOM/style structures are well supported, cursors vanish in some circumstances, etc) and avoid them, and implement non-trivial editing commands yourself (because you can't really rely on the browser to get them right), contentEditable is a functional way to represent editable content in th…

how do you plan to handle multiple cursors (eg: simultaneous-edit & collab), vertical / column selections, and multiple disjoint selections?

The DOM selection corresponds to the primary selection, the others are drawn using CSS spans. This means you only get touchscreen-style handles on the primary one, but I think that's acceptable.

Re: We are rewriting CodeMirror

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Post by marijn »

antoineMoPa wrote: post #9
leeoniya wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

how do you plan to handle multiple cursors (eg: simultaneous-edit & collab), vertical / column selections, and multiple disjoint selections?

By the way, how do we select multiple lines in chrome? I can do it in firefox in the "old" CodeMirror, but not in my chromebook.

Mouse drag or shift up/down works for me? Or what kind of selecting are you trying to do? (Or, if this was about multiple _cursors_, those are only half-implemented, and not exposed through the UI yet.)

Re: We are rewriting CodeMirror

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Post by [deleted] »

tnolet wrote: post #11
marijn wrote: post #2

Oh hi, I'm Marijn, one of the maintainers. It doesn't look like this submission is going anywhere, but I'll keep an eye on the comments and respond to questions.

Hi Marijn, I rely on CodeMirror for a SaaS I run (from Berlin). I will donate what I can. Just one question and please don’t take this the wrong way, but can you provide an insight into how you got to 80k as the target amount?

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