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Yeh and don't look now but... its also becoming a bloated mess. Notepad++ is a native application and it blows vscode out of the water for speed. Though obviously it does not have ide-esque features of vscode. Furthermore, there is no paid version of VS Code, and if there were, and it ran like dogs ass, I would say the same thing. They need to put on their big boy pants and make a big boy native application.
> They need to put on their big boy pants and make a big boy native application. for VScode, there's Visual Studio. And VScode isn't slow by any stretch. It does take a bit of memory (as expected of an electron app). But it's well engineered, and has very little slow laggy UI parts.
Edit: thought Skype wasn't in Electron, obviously I'm wrong: https://electronjs.org/apps/skype
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> They need to put on their big boy pants and make a big boy native application. for VScode, there's Visual Studio. And VScode isn't slow by any stretch. It does take a bit of memory (as expected of an electron app). But it's well engineered, and has very little slow laggy UI parts.
To be fair, I'm sure if they added WebRTC to VScode it'd be slow too. (Plus whatever Slack is doing to receive notifications and messages in real time - not sure if that's also WebRTC or something like Web Sockets) Edit: thought Skype wasn't in Electron, obviously I'm wrong: https://electronjs.org/apps/skype
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To be fair, I'm sure if they added WebRTC to VScode it'd be slow too. (Plus whatever Slack is doing to receive notifications and messages in real time - not sure if that's also WebRTC or something like Web Sockets) Edit: thought Skype wasn't in Electron, obviously I'm wrong: https://electronjs.org/apps/skype
The current Skype clients are Electron-based.
Hmmm. The story I keep hearing is companies switching from Slack to Teams, not because Teams is better, but because it's more or less integrated into O365 and has various compliance certs already. 7.1B seems a bit high when competing with MS.
My experience with MS Teams contradict what I've mostly seen on HN. Coming from a Linux background, I had lost touch with the Microsoft ecosystem for the most part of a decade and would actively avoid Microsoft related stuff. When I got a new job, I had to use the whole SharePoint/O365/Teams stack, instead of Slack, in medium-sized teams. It feels much more lightweight and responsive, chat history and search works wa…
https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com
They can also be very slow getting around to fixing things even if they are very important. They only just recently fixed so status works and notifications stopped working for more than a week without getting fixed (patched this week).
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Why would someone start with a minor platform? Mac is consistently 5-6 percentage of the market and has been for decades. They honestly have never been a player.
You're absolutely right, but consider that most of the people complaining who indicate their computer type are mentioning using Apple computers (perhaps electron works better on Windows? Perhaps people don't name drop Windows as much? Perhaps Windows users have lower expectations?). Also, consider that the supported hardware base for a Mac app is much smaller than a Windows app, which means fewer devices to test on,…
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With a 7b valuation, I'm pretty sure they can hire some talented people, don't you? I agree it will take longer, but Slack owes it to their customers to hire people and put out a better product.
> I'm pretty sure they can hire some talented people, don't you? Even the most talented construction workers could not build the Empire State Building in a week. It's a little silly to think that these people are like magicians. Have you looked at Slack's competitors? Slack is arguably the best chat app out there, especially with their UX and the quality of their integrations. It's so presumptious to then tut-tut the…
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> I'm pretty sure they can hire some talented people, don't you? Even the most talented construction workers could not build the Empire State Building in a week. It's a little silly to think that these people are like magicians. Have you looked at Slack's competitors? Slack is arguably the best chat app out there, especially with their UX and the quality of their integrations. It's so presumptious to then tut-tut the…
I honestly think slack is a terrible product. IRC is better in every way if you take a few moments and institute logging. Just because they are doing well doesn't mean they are doing well to their customers. It is insanely overpriced, imo.
Guess which opinion is more popular.
Now think again about this "doing well to their customers"