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Re: Tell HN: booking.com is looking for 40+ Perl programmers (in Amsterdam)

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Odd to see this on HN now. I took the job with Booking, just finished packing and will be flying out to Amsterdam tomorrow. See http://blogs.perl.org/users/aevar_arnfjor_bjarmason/2010/10/...

For anyone considering this I can tell you that their whole relocation package (including the assistance they give you) is very impressive.

Re: Tell HN: booking.com is looking for 40+ Perl programmers (in Amsterdam)

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If they are "good with Perl," then why would you "not want to hire them"?

I think that he's saying that their other characteristics would make you not want to hire them, even though they are good with Perl.

I was trying to be slightly diplomatic, but I seem to have failed. Let me put it more blunt:

If you're looking for 40 people you'll be looking for team players, these guys are really good, on their, own doing something that will never need maintenance.

Re: Tell HN: booking.com is looking for 40+ Perl programmers (in Amsterdam)

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40 ?! Are they trying to prove the infinite monkey theorem, empirically?

I don't think really. Based on some discussion, it seems they are more adding a pile of new servers everyday, and they also seem to do a very good job at automating their process etc.

I've worked with them as an affiliate and they have a pretty good system. The travel industry as a whole is pretty fast moving.

Re: Tell HN: booking.com is looking for 40+ Perl programmers (in Amsterdam)

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post #31

Odd to see this on HN now. I took the job with Booking, just finished packing and will be flying out to Amsterdam tomorrow. See http://blogs.perl.org/users/aevar_arnfjor_bjarmason/2010/10/... For anyone considering this I can tell you that their whole relocation package (including the assistance they give you) is very impressive.

Ovid signed on as well. Do you know if they mentor well? I can program in Perl and have created a few websites and internal stuff but some things are best taught.

Re: Tell HN: booking.com is looking for 40+ Perl programmers (in Amsterdam)

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I lived in Den Haag for three months and I was surprised at how little Dutch was spoken on a day-to-day basis. Everyone defaulted to English all the time, and the only people I met who didn't speak it were immigrants from other countries (usually Russia). I was eventually able to pronounce Scheveningen, though. Edit: All this is to say, of all the non-English-speaking countries to go to as an English speak, The Nethe…

I live and work in The Netherlands and if there is a non-dutch speaker in one of my teams we default to English so everyone can follow the discussion, although it's a bit harder for everyone to follow and it takes a bit more time. For the younger people here English isn't a problem, for the 40+ (aged) people it can be. For even better adaption of English you should visit Scandinavia; In the short time I've been there…

I was recently in The Netherlands, and was surprised to find that the taxi drivers spoke better English than they do in Sydney.

(In Sydney a lot of taxis are driven by recent immigrants who's English is sometimes less-than-ideal, despite some kind of mandatory-English requirement. If they have a mandatory English requirement in The Netherlands for taxi drivers then the bar must be a lot higher than in Australia!)

Re: Tell HN: booking.com is looking for 40+ Perl programmers (in Amsterdam)

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I never realized until recently how hard something like this is. People do not want to move. People that hear about your job post usually have some reason to have heard about your job post, like they can't program at all and their last employer finally figured it out. Unfortunately, you can't know this until they show up and you ask them a few questions about Perl. (I love how one candidate tried to BS me on a basic…

I have an almost diametrically opposed experience. I have good Perl skills, and 8+ years experience, and can't get Perl work in Sydney Australia, primarily due to the fact that recruiters looking for Perl devs here don't know anything about Perl tech.

The few Perl dev jobs I've interviewed for and taken have relied on unbelievably basic programming tests.

Re: Tell HN: booking.com is looking for 40+ Perl programmers (in Amsterdam)

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I live and work in The Netherlands and if there is a non-dutch speaker in one of my teams we default to English so everyone can follow the discussion, although it's a bit harder for everyone to follow and it takes a bit more time. For the younger people here English isn't a problem, for the 40+ (aged) people it can be. For even better adaption of English you should visit Scandinavia; In the short time I've been there…

Default to English just because there is ONE person who doesn't understand? Come on. Be proud of your native tongue and speak it. This is how languages die. Are the dutch willing to have their language replaced with English in 50 years? All I'm saying is... if that one foreigner is motivated enough to stay in the Netherlands, he better damn well learn the language. He/she will have to anyway, in order to adapt in soc…

If the foreigner is motivated enough he will learn Dutch anyway, in the meantime a common language is far more productive. English is the business language of choice in most European countries. Also if you need to work with teams spread all over the world it is much easier.

I guess English will evolve too, there will be a lot more influence from other languages, caused by the internet.

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