This is all based on information in this posting. I know nothing about the company or its situation or even if they really are looking for 40+. I'm just generally suspicious about this sort of recruiting.
Tell HN: booking.com is looking for 40+ Perl programmers (in Amsterdam)
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#22Here is the link to the actual job I believe: http://www5jh.openhire.com/epostings/submit.cfm?fuseaction=a... 40 decent perl programmers in Amsterdam is going to be tough to fill. The only ones I know of that are good with Perl you wouldn't want to hire for any reason. First I thought they meant Perl programmers 40 years and older, but age discrimination is illegal here :)
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think really. Based on some discussion, it seems they are more adding a pile of new servers everyday, and they also seem to do a very good job at automating their process etc.
Can't be that good if they need 40 more keyboardists.
It's not what a startup would do, correct, but they are swimming in money and this practice apparently gets them even more.
Re: Tell HN: booking.com is looking for 40+ Perl programmers (in Amsterdam)
#24Here is the link to the actual job I believe: http://www5jh.openhire.com/epostings/submit.cfm?fuseaction=a... 40 decent perl programmers in Amsterdam is going to be tough to fill. The only ones I know of that are good with Perl you wouldn't want to hire for any reason. First I thought they meant Perl programmers 40 years and older, but age discrimination is illegal here :)
If they are "good with Perl," then why would you "not want to hire them"?
Re: Tell HN: booking.com is looking for 40+ Perl programmers (in Amsterdam)
#25While Erlang and Haskell may get you laid, Perl remains the glue of the web.
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#26I work at a bank, and we need Perl programmers too. We can afford to pay a lot better than booking.com, but we can't find anyone, either. It's very odd. (And it's not just Perl, we had the same problem with Java and C#, and are having the same problem with C++. Might as well rewrite our app in Haskell... at least those languages have a community.)
The other thing that I see as being difficult for booking.com is that people don't want to work with 40+ other people. Between learning "the rules" from the people already there and teaching the new folks how to program, there is never any time to get anything done. (My second "real job" was like this; I was not even a "team lead" and yet all I did was teach other people basic Perl + Database stuff. We got exactly no work done. At least if I was by myself I would have been able to do one person's work.)
In fact, I find the other Perl team in my office to be too big -- and they only have 4 people!
Re: Tell HN: booking.com is looking for 40+ Perl programmers (in Amsterdam)
#27They are looking for 40 grams of "perl".. You know what I mean? Shmoke it wiff a pancake.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I lived in Den Haag for three months and I was surprised at how little Dutch was spoken on a day-to-day basis. Everyone defaulted to English all the time, and the only people I met who didn't speak it were immigrants from other countries (usually Russia). I was eventually able to pronounce Scheveningen, though. Edit: All this is to say, of all the non-English-speaking countries to go to as an English speak, The Nethe…
I live and work in The Netherlands and if there is a non-dutch speaker in one of my teams we default to English so everyone can follow the discussion, although it's a bit harder for everyone to follow and it takes a bit more time. For the younger people here English isn't a problem, for the 40+ (aged) people it can be. For even better adaption of English you should visit Scandinavia; In the short time I've been there…
All I'm saying is... if that one foreigner is motivated enough to stay in the Netherlands, he better damn well learn the language. He/she will have to anyway, in order to adapt in social settings.
Re: Tell HN: booking.com is looking for 40+ Perl programmers (in Amsterdam)
#29It's probably a bad sign. Almost no one is in a position to bring that many on board and use them effectively, and I'm tempted to say no one is unless they're already a fair multiple of that size. When you combine that with being open to "beginners willing to learn" which almost no one can afford, it makes it sound like one of the "We need 5 times what our ten guys are doing and that means 40 more." bad decisions. Ge…
If I were a Perl developer who wanted to live in Amsterdam, I would be scared of a place looking for 40 people - it means that their management is doing something nonsensical.
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#30Hmm, so the news of Perl's deaths have been exaggerated then?