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Reminder: Your future employers care more about side projects and experience than some writing on a piece of paper. You don't need to go to college to be a kick ass programmer.
That’s one specific case, but there’s miriades of other super corner cases.
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Programmers account for 1-2% of jobs. Sadly there are a great many careers where a degree is required. Many of those probably don't need a degree, but the number of jobs requiring it has grown, in the same way the number of jobs requiring licensing has grown.
1-2%? For some reason that seems high to me. Certainly one out of every 100 people I meet aren't programmers.
IT occupations: https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/...
'Computer programmers', 'software developers' and 'web developers' will get you to 1%. I think wpdev_63's message applies to some additional IT positions than just programmers, so I think 1-2% is about right.
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That's why you usually do not start there. Google might require a degree, but your local hairdresser does not ask for one as long as you can create his website. Then move your way up from there. After several years recruiters will be more interested in your experience, projects and contributions than your non existing degree. EDIT: other options include working at startups/smaller companies, contributing to open sour…
That's absurd, you're much better off going to a reputable school, working hard, grinding leetcode, completing internships, and then getting a $150k+/yr TC job to start. You'll come out far ahead by going to a good school. If you're able to start at Google while you're still in high school, that's a different story.
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It's very difficult to start your career at leading companies such as Google, Facebook, etc without going to a reputable school.
That's why you usually do not start there. Google might require a degree, but your local hairdresser does not ask for one as long as you can create his website. Then move your way up from there. After several years recruiters will be more interested in your experience, projects and contributions than your non existing degree. EDIT: other options include working at startups/smaller companies, contributing to open sour…
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That's why you usually do not start there. Google might require a degree, but your local hairdresser does not ask for one as long as you can create his website. Then move your way up from there. After several years recruiters will be more interested in your experience, projects and contributions than your non existing degree. EDIT: other options include working at startups/smaller companies, contributing to open sour…
That's absurd, you're much better off going to a reputable school, working hard, grinding leetcode, completing internships, and then getting a $150k+/yr TC job to start. You'll come out far ahead by going to a good school. If you're able to start at Google while you're still in high school, that's a different story.
Reminder: Your future employers care more about side projects and experience than some writing on a piece of paper. You don't need to go to college to be a kick ass programmer.
That said if a recession hits there's gonna be some really, really nasty side effects as the predatory student loan industry destroys a large amount of the workforce.
Many I know use their loans for not just school, but life. They spend money like they're rich and already have jobs when they're broke college students living off loans, and it just seems to me either the government, the banks loaning the money, or the schools, are using this monetary ignorance to their advantage. It'll fold some day I assume, considering student debt is 50% of the assets of the Federal Government [0], if those default rates rise to high that could wreck havoc in the trust of the financial well being of the US government (Disclaimer: I'm a student, I don't really understand most of what's happening here)
[0] https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/gs-live/uploads%2F1521231...
It shouldn't be controversial that we need an educated population and we need young people who aren't in debt up to their eyeballs. It's time for some hard choices, because the wheels are falling off.
