Somebody unearthed an IRC server in the hinterlands of the intranet of the huge tech company I work for. There was nobody there. The company is big on Jabber though...
At least they are using something which is an open standard, that's a good thing
IRC turns thirty
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Re: IRC turns thirty
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you see an equivalence between asking you to respect someone else's identity, and asking someone else to respect your opinion about their identity - I don't know what to tell you. It's not the same, and it's dishonest to claim it is.
It's asking me to assent to someone else's belief about the concept identity, all the while completely dismissing my belief about the concept of identity. It's inherently saying their belief is more important than my belief.
Miss Manners says you should call people what they wish to be called.
Re: IRC turns thirty
#43Has anyone noticed that Slack communities are a lot less active these days?
And IRC communities are less active these days.
Where are the chatters going to now?
Re: IRC turns thirty
#44I am invariably going to see in the world of Slack, "IRC, why don't you die already". No, IRC is not going to die. FreeNode is alive and well. And while you busy slamming and wishing death of IRC, just check the memory usage of your Slack client.
My problem with Slack is that while it's much more advanced client it still doesn't feel native, is slow and often bloated.
The only thing I miss is markdown, sometimes a bit of formatting is vital to getting the message across.
Re: IRC turns thirty
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's asking me to assent to someone else's belief about the concept identity, all the while completely dismissing my belief about the concept of identity. It's inherently saying their belief is more important than my belief.
Miss Manners says you should call people what they wish to be called.
I want to be addressed as 'greglindahlisarapist' from now on.
Re: IRC turns thirty
#46Has anyone noticed that Slack communities are a lot less active these days? And IRC communities are less active these days. Where are the chatters going to now?
Not sure whether Slack communities are less or more active, but what I'm sure is that chatting hardly works as a means to convey knowledge. It's neither rewarding nor persistent. I mean, you spend your time for free answering some (usually) easy to google questions and soon your answer is lost in the countless logs and you have no way to refer to it later like it never happened.
All popular and large Slack communities (the same is true for IRC channels) I used to be a member of are very much alike – hundreds of people just sit there busy with their lives just in case somebody would post something interesting, and just occasionally there're small bursts of activity to educate another newbie who did @here in the channel. And even when (oh, miracle) there does occur some conversation you realise you have no time to follow it as it happens and later you're just to lazy to find it and try to make some sense out of it. So, first you turn off notification distractions. And second, after a while, you realise you haven't poked there for weeks and finally just remove it with no regret.
Re: IRC turns thirty
#47I feel like we will end up with another program that abstracts Slack/Telegram/IRC into neat CLI interface and we will go full circle again. :) Happy birth day IRC!
Like WeeChat with various plugins?
Re: IRC turns thirty
#48I hate Slack and I particularly despise Gitter. All the communities I had to go on at one point were totally out of service or totally uninterested in helping newbies. I am glad some organizations still use IRC as their main online network.
I used IRC Cloud for some time. Pretty good, actually. Works almost everywhere, nice UI. It's certainly no irssi in a tmux/screen, but it's pretty good. Costs $5/month when I was using it (so close to the same as a VPS or proxy.)
IRC Cloud is fine, in the end it's still IRC. I used to use Adium, but now my work VPN is over AWS, so I can't (forget what the actual extension I needed Adium to support). Ever since I just use the freenode web client.
Re: IRC turns thirty
#49If you've never poked the IRC protocol directly, Google how to connect to IRC with Telnet. You can pretty reasonably use IRC just by writing to a socket - by hand. It's all human readable and understandable. It's incredible. It's what an open protocol should be. Writing a simple IRC client is a breeze!
Except for the complete lack of security and blind trust of server operators?
It's downright dangerous to use it,but then again people still use email.
Re: IRC turns thirty
#50/me slow claps