China’s Mass Internment Camps Have No Clear End in Sight

Post by herojian » Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 1:36 AM UTC

Kalium wrote: post #65

adventured wrote: post #16

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I've found this very strange as well. Best guess is that it hasn't fully reached their populations / news audiences. It's only in the last four to six months that Western media has begun to actively talk about it and pursue the truth of what's going on there. Alternatively they don't protest China because they know it does no good. The Guantanamo Bay detention camp had less than a thousand total detainees over its hi…

> I've found this very strange as well. Sad to say, I did not. Many majority-Muslim nations at current have ethno-nationalist tinges to them and a general low opinion of their religious and ethnic minority groups. Many are more interested in the money the Chinese government makes available for infrastructure than in some internal issue in China.

Post by yourbandsucks » Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 1:42 AM UTC

adventured wrote: post #28

yourbandsucks wrote: post #11

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"communist dictatorship" is inexact enough to be outright dishonest. Their economy is obviously capitalist. And although Xi has been leaning towards more dictator-like behavior, they haven't been a dictatorship since Mao. It's more like a giant bureaucracy. They have a process, they have regular handovers of power. It's not "I am the law".

> Their economy is obviously capitalist. Their economy is the exact opposite of Capitalist in fact. It's de facto state controlled top to bottom. 1) The Chinese economy is overwhelmingly state owned or directly controlled. All the major banks are directly owned or controlled by the government. All of their major industries, such as steel, aluminum and energy, are directly owned or controlled by the government. Their…

Post by _iyig » Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 1:48 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #87

_iyig wrote: post #72

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Is the OP wrong? Is the point irrelevant to the discussion? In what way is the observation of an admittedly uncomfortable fact "ideological rhetoric"?

People apply the word 'fact' loosely when it comes to topics they feel strongly about. The point is contentious and disputable in a bunch of ways. That's not necessarily bad, but it is when combined with a declamatory style. Just to be clear though: I'm not making a point about China. I'm making a point about how terrible Hacker News threads become when people allow themselves to post this way. This problem is gettin…

Post by ipsocannibal » Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 2:24 AM UTC

ptenk wrote: post #82

The sinophobia in these comments always makes me uncomfortable because it’s usually underlied with overall anti-Asian sentiment. It reminds me that I don’t belong in America, we still live in a white world.

Post by seibelj » Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 2:41 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #105

angersock wrote: post #92

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You're doing a lot of damage control on China stuff since that partnership thing was announced.

That's quite an insinuation. Fortunately I have a long history of posts to HN, and anyone bored enough to search through them will easily see that it's not true. To me the weird thing is running across a smear like this at all; it's surreal when someone is sure they know what you're thinking. YC doesn't cross my mind while posting these. What has changed on HN over the last year or two is an uptick in nationalistic f…