I found the real problem with Docker to be that it downloads things from their repository. Just like Maven, it's a major pain point.
What? I thought containment as an enabler for reproducibility was the whole point of containers.
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Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store
#232Docker Hub[1] is also blatantly in breach of the GDPR. Wording on the pop-up: > We and our advertising partners use cookies on this site and around the web to improve your website experience and provide you with personalised advertising from this site and other advertisers in AdRoll's network. By clicking "allow" or navigating this site, you accept the placement and use of these cookies for these purposes. It’s not a…
>Docker Hub is also blatantly in breach of the GDPR. Truth is, no one cares. GDPR is an overreach designed to shake down American mega-corps. Docker has no money so the EU isn't going to do anything to them. >I’d report them to the Information Commissioner‘s Office myself if I didn’t think they were about to fold anyway I'm sure they're inundated with complaints from unsuccessful companies trying to shoot down their…
> Truth is, no one cares.
You will, if you have EU customers.
> GDPR is an overreach designed to shake down American mega-corps.
The GDPR is the result of mega-corps (American ones in particular) not giving two shits about how their users' personal data is handled. Cry all you want now that the milk's spilled, it won't change the fact that this legislation was not conjured in a vacuum, but as a response to the way corporations behave when not obliged to care about personally identifiable information.
> Docker has no money so the EU isn't going to do anything to them.
A formal reprimand might suffice. Contrary to the naive american view I see here on HN, EU data regulators don't immediately try to shut you down by barging into your company's office with a SWAT team.
> I'm sure they're inundated with complaints from unsuccessful companies trying to shoot down their biggest competitors already.
How sure? 100%? 50%? Less? What are you basing your assertion on?
> Adding one more to the pile is only going to waste your time and that of EU regulators.
There's a characteristic nearly all government departments share: they may be slow, but they're steamrollers. They'll get to you eventually.
Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store
#233Bit of a cliché, but nothing is free. You are choosing to use technology provided by a for-profit company. Community Edition does not mean it's owned by the community. It's absolutely irritating to have to create an account and login when you just want to try something, but if you're invested in a technology and the company that provides it (at no direct monetary cost to you), I don't think it's worth getting stroppy about. Plenty of other more sinister and cynical things happening in tech right now to get riled about
Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store
#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
No kidding. “Improve the user experience“ is incredibly nebulous and non-obvious. IF there is actually a benefit to this why not just list it? We all know why. There isn’t a benefit to the end-user.
as soon as you see nonsense business speak like that you know things are going downhill. see also, netflix, and twitter lately. I really don't know why they bother uttering or writing those kinds of words. They contain no information, nobody is fooled by the lie. It is a waste of their time.
A presumably open source software is held to a higher standard than such marketing-oriented enterprises.
Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store
#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think Canonical does a pretty great job of this. If I download an Ubuntu Server ISO, I get my download immediately, but the page has a nice prompt to register for a whitepaper to get the most out of my new server product. If I download the Ubuntu Desktop ISO, I still get my download immediately, but additionally I see some nice prompts about donating to support their operations. Everything about both flows inspires…
> If I download the Ubuntu Desktop ISO, I still get my download immediately Actually you have to click past a "please donate some money" nagging dialogue. It may be a little annoying (at least if you download ISOs all the time), but it's obvious what they are asking for, not to mention why. And it's definitely not dishonest, so it doesn't tarnish their reputation as a trust-worthy company.
no they changed it. you click on download now and you can donate money while downloading. (https://imgur.com/a/TMDYaX8)
Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store
#236This is pretty much a reality check. Like any other business , Open Source needs funding. It's well know Docker is far from being profitable. This is somewhat represents how ultimately money always win on open source one way or another.
> Like any other business, Open Source needs funding.
That's a valid comment... for a different discussion. The actual issue here is that Docker's business model is falling apart, with alternative container runtimes (cri-o, rkt, etc.) and alternative orchestrators (mostly k8s) eating their lunch. And all of those are open source too.
Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store
#237Can anyone who works inside PR for software-developer facing companies like Docker explain how a decision like this could make it past vetting? Any software developer (who isn't drunk on the kool aid?) could tell you that this would result in loss of good will.
Companies do not consist of 100% software developers.
Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store
#238Good. Maybe we can get back to writing software, rather than spending our time on pointless deployment scripting, tools, and reiventing wheels. Or have developers interested in containers spend their efforts on standardized rather than Linux-only solutions. Docker has IMHO never made any sense for the use cases people seem to have in mind, as it really doesn't isolate you from anything (neither from the host O/S nor…
> Good. Maybe we can get back to writing software, rather than spending our time on pointless deployment scripting, tools, and reiventing wheels.
Not sure what you're getting at here. Since our team switched to Docker/Kubernetes, I've spent considerably less time on pointless deployment scripting and reinventing wheels.
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#239Thank god for GDPR.
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#240"Uhuh. You mean, force people to login with an email so we can target them with an ad campaign so we make money??"
Good luck with I'm behind 1000 spam filters.