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Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by addisonj »

jchw wrote: post #43
userbinator wrote: post #27

That's what throwaway accounts are for... and this, of course: http://bugmenot.com/view/store.docker.com In any case, "to make sure we can improve the Docker for Mac and Windows experience for users moving forward" is yet another example of the official-sounding-yet-bullshit, vague and meandering language that seems to permeate into everything these days. (Is there a specific term for it? "Business-speak" doesn't hav…

FWIW, as far as I know, Docker for Windows and Docker for Mac really are closed source freeware. My honest opinion is we should move away from it. As for what to move to... That's definitely an open question. Docker for Windows is definitely one of the best developer experiences I've had on Windows because they put actual engineering work into it. All the same, I still found it buggier and less supported than Docker…

I highly recommend https://github.com/codekitchen/dinghy for MacOS. It predates docker for Mac but offers most of the same features while mostly being "just docker".

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by [deleted] »

djflutt3rshy wrote: post #42

Would it kill companies to be honest and upfront about these sorts of issues? I feel like "Hey, we're unable to pay our bills unless we can better monetize our product" comes across a lot more honest and trust-worthy than this "We're improving user experience! Trust us!" pride-and-accomplishment nonsense that everyone keeps regurgitating. We're not preschoolers, the Internet can spot marketing slogans a mile away.

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Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by lainga »

djflutt3rshy wrote: post #42

Would it kill companies to be honest and upfront about these sorts of issues? I feel like "Hey, we're unable to pay our bills unless we can better monetize our product" comes across a lot more honest and trust-worthy than this "We're improving user experience! Trust us!" pride-and-accomplishment nonsense that everyone keeps regurgitating. We're not preschoolers, the Internet can spot marketing slogans a mile away.

The metamorphosis from startup to company is complete. The people who would have been straightforward with you have been replaced by endemic office-dwellers.

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by zavi »

jeffbr13 wrote: post #49

Docker Hub[1] is also blatantly in breach of the GDPR. Wording on the pop-up: > We and our advertising partners use cookies on this site and around the web to improve your website experience and provide you with personalised advertising from this site and other advertisers in AdRoll's network. By clicking "allow" or navigating this site, you accept the placement and use of these cookies for these purposes. It’s not a…

Internet Lawyers have spoken.

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by GW150914 »

gameswithgo wrote: post #60
MBCook wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No kidding. “Improve the user experience“ is incredibly nebulous and non-obvious. IF there is actually a benefit to this why not just list it? We all know why. There isn’t a benefit to the end-user.

as soon as you see nonsense business speak like that you know things are going downhill. see also, netflix, and twitter lately. I really don't know why they bother uttering or writing those kinds of words. They contain no information, nobody is fooled by the lie. It is a waste of their time.

The world is full of people lacking the (to you and I) basic intelligence, education, and sophistication to smell bullshit. The minority that the rest of us represent are too much trouble to bother with anyhow, and our odds of convincing a large enough number of other people of our positions are low.

Edit: I understand how what I said could come off as facile or elitist, but there is truth in it. The same empty promises and blandishments that worked a thousand years ago work today, because most people don’t ever learn about their history in any detail. Then there are a lot of smart and educated people who take as the lesson that they can profit greatly by making those same empty promises, and a very few who are selfless and willing to try to convince people to change. The problem is that people don’t want to believe those people, they want to believe the lies. For decades “tree huggers” have been desperately trying to warn people of what is now broadly accepted, our environment is on the precipice of irrevocable harm. As a group they’ve been persecuted, ridiculed, marginalized, and despised because people either didn’t want to believe them, or stood to profit more if they weren’t believed.

More people want to believe in the handsome man promising them nice things than the shrill nerd loudly warning them that it’s all bullshit, and admitting that they don’t have all of answers. The people messily and inexpertly trying to hang on to privacy for example, are far less popular and respected than the slick assholes robbing them of that privacy for a dollar. After all, more people want to be a CEO with a jet than the next RTS.

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by teraflop »

alpb wrote: post #24
bufferoverflow wrote: post #2

Linux: https://download.docker.com/linux/static/stable/x86_64/ Win: https://download.docker.com/win/static/stable/x86_64/ Mac: https://download.docker.com/mac/static/stable/x86_64/

The issue in the post talks about "Docker for Mac" and "Docker for Windows" which is basically what Docker for Desktop is. The links you provided are just for the docker binary (which is, mac/windows they're just the docker client –not sure about what the linux binary contains). They're not the same thing.

The Docker binary for Linux appears to also be behind a login wall, at least if you follow the most obvious navigation links.

(Even then, it's not trivial to find, because the standard Linux version of Docker isn't mentioned at all in the "getting started" section of the site. You have to know that they apparently call it "Docker Engine" now.)

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by llimllib »

jchw wrote: post #82
llimllib wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> one of the best developer experiences I've had on Windows because they put actual engineering work into it Like, this is exactly what they're talking about, right? This is the user experience that they've improved because VCs have been willing to give them money because they show increases in MAUs. Am I crazy here? You seem to be complaining about exactly the thing that you like

The app phoning home to do analytics is fine with me. I just want the download links so I don't have to sign in to download the app. I will almost definitely sign into the app so I can use the features where signing in are actual value adds. (Also, if they ever removed the direct links, it would really suck for automated deployments.) But really, I don't care that strongly. I do, however, wish to use, if possible, an…

I want that too, but there's unfortunately nobody likely to do that work for free.

(I find it annoying that you have to hunt for the download link too, tbf. I just figure that, OK, that's how they make their $ to build their mostly excellent software)

Re: Docker cannot be downloaded without logging into Docker Store

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Post by throwaway917100 »

eabutfordocker wrote: post #17
bufferoverflow wrote: post #2

Linux: https://download.docker.com/linux/static/stable/x86_64/ Win: https://download.docker.com/win/static/stable/x86_64/ Mac: https://download.docker.com/mac/static/stable/x86_64/

The intent is to provide users with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different download links.

I see what you did there :)
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