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Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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I really hope that the next generation of AMD Radeon have a good performance and their efforts to port TensorFlow and others works. AMD need to put on NVIDIA on the same heat that Intel got with the Zen architecture. NVIDIA is too comfortable, with a very high price and crazy demands ( you can´t use Customer cards on Data centers)

What effort to port tensorflow?

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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The point was different - it is way too expensive for regular gamers, 2080Ti likely won't be able to do 4k@60Hz like 1080Ti couldn't either and 10 games featuring RTX in the nearly future is not a sufficient draw, especially when some of the effects now look subjectively worse with RTX ON (see those shadows from multiple lights above dancing people from Jenson's demo). So the question remains - who is the real target…

>it is way too expensive for regular gamers The 80 series has always been a low-volume, high-margin halo product within Nvidia's gaming range. It's dirt cheap and high-volume compared to Quadro, but top-of-the-range for gaming. Cryptomania has revealed to Nvidia that they probably priced the 1080 too low at launch - many gamers were in fact willing to pay substantially inflated prices for The Best GPU. If the mass ma…

The 70 series is traditionally pretty popular for gamers though. At $600, though, I mean... that's at the point where just the graphics card is more than one of the 4K consoles Microsoft or Sony is putting out. Obviously a PC game is going to look nicer, but someone has to start thinking about that comparison.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point was different - it is way too expensive for regular gamers, 2080Ti likely won't be able to do 4k@60Hz like 1080Ti couldn't either and 10 games featuring RTX in the nearly future is not a sufficient draw, especially when some of the effects now look subjectively worse with RTX ON (see those shadows from multiple lights above dancing people from Jenson's demo). So the question remains - who is the real target…

> it is way too expensive for regular gamers Better cancel my pre-order then... > 2080Ti likely won't be able to do 4k@60Hz like 1080Ti couldn't either My 1080ti and 4k monitor beg to differ.

> Better cancel my pre-order then...

I mean you're not countering his point in any way. He didn't say nobody would buy it, but it's a simple fact that most people can't afford or justify a thousand dollar GPU.

The vast majority of people buying Nvidia GPUs in the 10xx generation were going for 1060s and 1070s.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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For video professionals doing ray tracing this upgrade would likely be a must-have. This assumes the improvement (i.e. 6x or anything in that ballpark) is real and their software supports it... if so, hell, nVidia could double or triple the price of the card and it would still make sense for them. nVidia is just cashing in on a lack of any real competition at the high-end currently... hopefully we'll see AMD get back…

Isn't this just an implementation of Microsoft's DirectX Raytracing API? If so, only video games are really going to use that API. I doubt that a software renderer (or CUDA-renderer) would leave raytracing / light calculations to a 3rd party. There's a rumor that Dinsey bought a bunch of real-time raytracing equipment for their theme parks (the Star Wars section in Disney World). So high-quality realtime computation…

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Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point was different - it is way too expensive for regular gamers, 2080Ti likely won't be able to do 4k@60Hz like 1080Ti couldn't either and 10 games featuring RTX in the nearly future is not a sufficient draw, especially when some of the effects now look subjectively worse with RTX ON (see those shadows from multiple lights above dancing people from Jenson's demo). So the question remains - who is the real target…

> it is way too expensive for regular gamers Better cancel my pre-order then... > 2080Ti likely won't be able to do 4k@60Hz like 1080Ti couldn't either My 1080ti and 4k monitor beg to differ.

Really depends on the game and how much you value high refresh rates.

There's also the VR factor, as much as Nvidia/AMD like to label their products "VR ready" we are, imho, ways off from actually being there.

At least if the goal is gonna be something like two displays at 4k@90+Hz and upwards.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Spec page says 8K HDR @ 60fps.

Talking about two different things here... You mentioned that card is capable of outputting 8k HDR @ 60Hz, i.e. your Windows desktop can happily have 7680x4320@60. I mentioned that running games at 4k@60Hz or 3k@144Hz smoothly might not be possible for some demanding games and that many gamers expected that from the new generation.

Exactly, PC high-end gaming has moved on from higher resolutions to higher refresh rates, ideally both of it.

Many enthusiasts gamers consider gaming at 60 fps to be rather outdated.

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> the number of people who blow $800+ on a GPU like a 1080 Ti are few and far between in comparison. They always have been. Still doesn't stop those who can buying them.

Certainly not, but the infuriating part is historically the performance of those cards trickles down to the lower tiers at more reasonable prices as the generations go by. The GTX 1070 beat the GTX 980 Ti at an MSRP $200 less just one generation later, meanwhile at least from pure TFLOPS numbers the RTX 2080 is less powerful than the GTX 1080 Ti while costing around the same. One would be forgiven for expecting rough…

Nvidia has a history of just sitting out their performance lead, see Geforce 8800 vs Geforce 9800.

Even in the initially released marketing material, by Nvidia, the 8800 GTX had the obviously way better raw specs than the 9800 GTX. Took them a couple of days until they changed the material to compare on performance % in different games.

But the 9800 GTX was actually a slower card than the one year older 8800 GTX due to lower memory bandwidth and capacity. As such it was competing against one generation older mid-range cards like the 8800 GTS 512.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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what kind of FPS can you get in Doom, all features on, at 4k? my 1070 would do it, but it was garbage fps

I get 60 (limited by my monitor) or 1080ti. All settings maxed out at 4K

Nearly the same story for me on a 980 ti. I have to turn some settings down, but I get 60fps @ UHD commonly.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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post #12

Hmm, 24%-42% performance increase (14/16TFlops vs 11.3TFlops) for 70-90% price increase... And prices were already inflated by crypto that is now collapsing. Not sure who is the target market for this tech honestly. Still only 11GB RAM, even if 50% faster, making it a nonsense purchase for Deep Learning enthusiasts (state-of-art models are already larger). Unless somebody invented RTX-based coin of course, then this…

You can always decrease a batch size to fit in smaller RAM.

...if the batch is the thing that doesn't fit in RAM, as opposed to the model.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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sure, for games like battlegrounds. but some games don't even have enemies!

Ah yes, visual stories 2.0...

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