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Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by NicoJuicy »

Bud wrote: post #63
viraptor wrote: post #39

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Almost every larger company these days has done something bad like that. Lenovo had superfish, HP had a keylogger, Dell had its own superfish, Acer still installs search toolbars and browser hijackers, depending on how far back you want to go Sony had the BMG rootkit and a camera backdoor, ... Who are you going to get your laptop from now of you ignore all of those - especially if you're going to reinstall your OS im…

Almost every company? Except the one this thread is about...

They already have that data..

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by pier25 »

scandox wrote: post #224
Naomarik wrote: post #155

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Completely agree. I have the 15inch 2015 MacBook Pro and a Surface Book 2. It took a bit trial but I now have a setup I like using WSL for development, and have brought all the MacOS keyboard shortcuts over with autohotkey. All Apple needed to do was have a single model without the touchbar and I would have purchased a newer model regardless of potential keyboard issues. Surface Book 2 is the most brilliant hardware…

I just find the touch experience on Surface to be completely lamentable and the hybrid desktop-tablet interface boggles my mind. I agree the hardware is fantastic but I find Windows 10 intolerable.

I agree. Windows 10 is not ready to be used property as a tablet.

For example, the only way to get a slider to adjust display brightness was opening the OS display settings. At least that was the case the last time I tried it.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by danShumway »

likeclockwork wrote: post #177
danShumway wrote: post #9

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I use Linux exclusively across all of my computers. The biggest problem is touch support - you can get drivers working fine, but the ecosystem is terrible. Open Source applications are an entire generation behind on basic gesture support. The best drawing apps on Linux don't even support pinch-to-zoom. This is a solvable problem that I expect to improve, albeit probably not any time soon, and I'm still incredibly fru…

I run Arch on an X1 Yoga (2nd Gen) Krita has good touchscreen and stylus support.

Krita does support pinch-to-zoom and it can distinguish between your stylus and your finger, which admittedly puts it above most other Linux drawing apps. But it does not (as far as I can find anywhere) support touch rotation. This makes it suboptimal for most tablets, especially mounted ones.

Driver support is great, but driver support is not the problem for any Linux touch interface, that's been a solved issue for some time - the applications need to catch up to the usability level of stuff like Clip Studio. I fully expect that it will happen some day, but probably not for a while.

That being said, thanks for the suggestion, I really appreciate it. I'm still running Linux on my drawing tablet, I'm just putting up with everything that comes with it. If you had managed to find an app that had slipped past me when I was testing all of this stuff, you would have just made my tablet experience way better.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by satysin »

adamqureshi wrote: post #129
satysin wrote: post #28

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No issues with my 2018 15" MBP. Runs perfect, solid battery life, cool and quiet. No kernel panics or any other crashes in 3 weeks of owning it. Edit: Should mention I have only restarted it two or three times in those 3 weeks so it has had plenty of time to crash

I am "about" to order one monday. $3,400 with double the ram + tax (NYC). wish me luck! any feedback?

Not really. I got the i9/32GB/1TB model. It is fantastic. The only "issue" I have had is related to the Mojave beta which is kind of to be expected with a beta. Everything about this machine is basically perfect. As I said I even love the keyboard. It is really nice to type on for hours at a time. Yes it feels kinda weird at first but it really isn't as bad as people make out. It is is much, much nicer to type on than my XPS 13 which has very mushy keys that just feel uncomfortable.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by protomyth »

natch wrote: post #164
protomyth wrote: post #143

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Try walking a non-technical user through it over the phone. It is not fun and $DIETY help you if they have a problematic internet connection.

Well the guy was an accomplished developer so... no need to move the goalposts.

I’m pretty sure the advice from the tweet would be the same regardless.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by pier25 »

hajile wrote: post #112
sehugg wrote: post #55

I still have my 2012 MBP with the nearly-dead battery, but for daily work I'm just using a $200 Samsung Chromebook 3 with Termux. Yes, I can't run everything, and it's quite slow, but as a result I end up spotting performance problems I wouldn't otherwise.

Bought a pixelbook to replace my 2015 macbook. It's been a great experience. Crostini is great (as is having Android apps). You can now find the low-end model for $750 everywhere these days. A little slower, but I have fast desktop machines for when I run into those kinds of tasks.

I'm waiting a couple more months to see what happens with Apple, but I'm almost certain my next laptop will be a high end Chromebook. With crostini I would have all I need.

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by nnq »

coin wrote: post #122
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #43

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I'm looking at the new Thinkpad P1 and it's everything I hoped the last Macbook Pro update would be. Way things are going I'll be very surprised if my next machine is a Macbook when my 2015 needs replacing.

Except for the off-center trackpad. Why is it so hard to find a PC laptop with a centered trackpad?

HP spectre x360 has a centered trackpad... but I higly advice AGAINST this device for tons of other reasons (including the trackpad, btw, which is top-hinged-real-click and glass-made variety but it's still horrible).

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by lowercased »

kbd wrote: post #176
pertymcpert wrote: post #95

Why is the T2 panic any worse than a normal panic? It's a bug, they happen. And before someone says that they're only needed for the Touch Bar, a) they chose to buy the Touch Bar version, and b) T2 and future chips will handle much more.

> a) they chose to buy the Touch Bar version Only problem with this is that if you want the most powerful Mac laptop, the touchbar version is your only choice!

Exactly. Perhaps they really only 'chose' a 2.9ghz 6-core macbook - it just happens to come with a touchbar.

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Post by willtim »

ashishb wrote: post #227
some_account wrote: post #215

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Not sure what you mean here... You just install Linux on them and usually things work fine. Maybe your fingerprint scanner won't work, stuff like that, but otherwise it's rare to have issues.

> Maybe your fingerprint scanner won't work, stuff like that, but otherwise it's rare to have issues. reply Exactly. These things add up. Fingerprint scanner won't work, battery life goes down. Occasionally, the device won't come out of sleep. I have used self-managed GNU/Linux on my laptop before and these issues bother you unless GNU/Linux development is your main job.

Pick your distribution wisely. I have no issues with Linux wake-from-sleep or battery life on a ThinkPad, in fact my wife has more issues with her MacBookPro!

Re: The new MacBook Pros with T2 chips do indeed kernel panic randomly

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Post by balladeer »

skywhopper wrote: post #128
saudioger wrote: post #115

IMO the 2015 Macbook Pro is one of the best laptops ever made. Don't know why they went and messed that up. I solidly regret the 2017 version. I've had one keyboard replacement already (that required the logic board to be replaced, seriously). Since then, I've already lost two keycaps. I've been ordering replacements online because they wanted me to ship it out for repair. My 2015 Macbook is being used daily by a fri…

"My next laptop will probably not be a mac." Yeah, you aren't the only one. They are seriously throwing away all the goodwill and reputation they'd built up over the past 20 years, over features no one is asking for like the touch bar and a ridiculously short key throw.

I am of the same opinion. But my reasons are - repairability, cost of parts and service after the warranty ends (in fact cost of extended warranty too).
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