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Re: Ask HN: Cost of living across the world (Ramen PPP Index for hackers)

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Post by Confusion »

jacquesm wrote: post #28

Europe, Netherlands (adjusted for one person): - rent/mortgage 500 (comes to about the same) - food 120 - mandatory health insurance 100 - internet 20M 75 (yep, that's splurging) - cheap car 250 (owning a car is expensive here) - energy bill 200 - various other insurances 100 - phone 50

That adds up to about 1500 EUR and the individual numbers sounds reasonable, but I know I can get by on less. I think the main differences are:

- mortgage: 350 for an 85 m^2 apartment near The Hague, after tax returns (no maintenance included)

- health insurance: 80 for the minimum package

- internet: 30

- energy: 100

- car: 150 (bare minimum)

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Post by sebi »

seltzered wrote: post #70
jacquesm wrote: post #28

Europe, Netherlands (adjusted for one person): - rent/mortgage 500 (comes to about the same) - food 120 - mandatory health insurance 100 - internet 20M 75 (yep, that's splurging) - cheap car 250 (owning a car is expensive here) - energy bill 200 - various other insurances 100 - phone 50

is this in USD or EUR? Are you in amsterdam?

amsterdam is quite a bit more expensive.

i sublet an old, rusty, worndown (with views on a canal) 1 bedroom appartment in the best part of town (jordaan) for 900€/month. The bigger problem in amsterdam is to find something.

Re: Ask HN: Cost of living across the world (Ramen PPP Index for hackers)

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Post by dejv »

rglullis wrote: post #56

Can someone please do it for Prague? Or Budapest? As someone who used to live in (very expensive for non-basic necessities, cheap for basic necessities) São Paulo and moved to (reasonably cheaper for non-basic necessities, way more expensive for rent and food) Boston, when I went to Prague it felt cheap. I found 4-star hotels in Prague 1 for the price of not-that-great hostels in London, €18/day. I'd go to a bar or a…

See my post on Brno, which is second largest city in Czech Republic and somewhere little bit cheaper than Prague (but not that much).

Same apply to Budapest, it is pretty much like Prague, maybe little bit cheaper.

Re: Ask HN: Cost of living across the world (Ramen PPP Index for hackers)

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Post by csmeder »

Kaizyn wrote: post #66
csmeder wrote: post #58

San Luis Obispo, CA Apartment Rent + Utilities: $400-$600 Internet (1 Mbps): $25 Food: $250 Phone: $50 Transport (Bike): $20 A decent meal: $8-$30

You must be living in a shanty at those prices (or you have roommates) in SLO, CA.

You can get a decent 2 bedroom for $1100 or less ($550) per person. I just searched craigslist to confirm. If you luck out you can live in a really nice 5 bedroom house for $500 per bed room. I have two separate friends who have found such places.

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Post by djhworld »

London, UK

Rent: £675p/month in a shared property. Bills included. Zone 2. This is quite cheap in comparison to most places in London. If you was looking to get your own place (a 1 bedroom apartment) then you're looking at > £800 a month PLUS bill and taxes on top of that

Travel cost: £99.10 a month for a zones 1-2 travelcard.

Food expenses...£100-£150 a month

I earn just under £30k and I've been in the industry for just over 2 years. I guess a typical programmer will earn £30k-£50k p/a during the course of their career, depending on what industry they're in

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Post by thomas11 »

A data point for the higher end: Geneva (also, Zurich), CH. Currency is CHF which is almost 1:1 with USD.

Rent 1500-2000 (one person apartment!)

Food 500 (eating at home, eating out is minimum 30/meal)

Internet + smart phone w/ 3G: 150

Net salary after tax, health insurance, pension: 60,000 - 120,000 for a programmer.

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Post by agazso »

rglullis wrote: post #56

Can someone please do it for Prague? Or Budapest? As someone who used to live in (very expensive for non-basic necessities, cheap for basic necessities) São Paulo and moved to (reasonably cheaper for non-basic necessities, way more expensive for rent and food) Boston, when I went to Prague it felt cheap. I found 4-star hotels in Prague 1 for the price of not-that-great hostels in London, €18/day. I'd go to a bar or a…

Budapest

Rent for a two rooms flat in a good part of the city is about 300-400€.

Internet is 40€ (15Mb).

You can get a meal for 3-4€. Monthly pass for tram/bus/underground is 40€. A pint of beer is around 1.5-2€ in clubs.

The average IT worker salary is about 1000€, but it's hard to tell because the tax system is complicated and everyone is finding and abusing holes in it.

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Post by Cafesolo »

Buenos Aires, Argentina.

Living in a nice area such as Belgrano costs you around $800 (US dollars):

- Apartment: $500

- Food: $200

- Public transport: $50

- Internet: $30

- Cellphone: $20

Most programmers here make between $800 and $1600. Really good ones make up to $2500.

Re: Ask HN: Cost of living across the world (Ramen PPP Index for hackers)

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Post by thingie »

dejv wrote: post #93
rglullis wrote: post #56

Can someone please do it for Prague? Or Budapest? As someone who used to live in (very expensive for non-basic necessities, cheap for basic necessities) São Paulo and moved to (reasonably cheaper for non-basic necessities, way more expensive for rent and food) Boston, when I went to Prague it felt cheap. I found 4-star hotels in Prague 1 for the price of not-that-great hostels in London, €18/day. I'd go to a bar or a…

See my post on Brno, which is second largest city in Czech Republic and somewhere little bit cheaper than Prague (but not that much). Same apply to Budapest, it is pretty much like Prague, maybe little bit cheaper.

I'd say that Prague is actually cheaper than Brno, as you can very easily earn more there, and you can get food for pretty much the same price in the same chain store, public transit fares are almost the same, rents outside the city center are comparable, even better in Prague, as there is much more choice.

(I live in Brno.)

Re: Ask HN: Cost of living across the world (Ramen PPP Index for hackers)

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Post by bryanwb »

Rome, Italy

Rent: euro 800-1000, $1,300 for cheap 1 bedroom apt

Food: euro 1000, $1,300

Health Insurance: ?

Transport: public transport euro30 / month, super cheap

sundries: 2x that of US

Starting Programmer Salary: euro1500-2000

How do young programmers afford to live here? I think they live w/ their parents and frequently their parents cook for them or they live off pizza

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