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Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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I practiced lucid dreaming intensely when I was 18 for over a year and it has been automatic since (it is over 25 years later); I would not miss it for the world. It's like a strong hallucinogenic drug but without the side effects (aka recovery is instant when I wake up). I like doing the things you would think that are great; flying around, getting shot without being hurt (I did it 1000s of times and still find it i…

> but the book I learned lucid dreaming from

I was going to ask you how you learned and practiced lucid dreaming. What book was that?

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False memories are one which many have experienced, as well as mentioned above, increased chance of sleep paralysis. Increased SP doesn't seem so bad, just maybe inconvenient. Building up more and more false memories doesn't seem like a great idea.

I've always had trouble with false memories. Not of anything important, but I sometimes dream of very mundane things, like moving my wallet or keys. Or telling someone something. Makes it very difficult to keep track of things.

I used to have regular hypnogogia, and I often imagined that monsters were coming to steal my wallet and keys from my bedside. Those items started "moving" during the night, to under the mattress, or into blankets in the closet, so "they" wouldn't find them. It is genetic for me, as my mother had some similar experiences. I only happened to learn it was a "thing with a name" because I was dancing Argentine tango with a postdoc sleep researcher, and we got to talking. Oddly enough, her suggested solution worked perfectly - a night light. It is a very long story.

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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This happens to me all the time, and I'm in my 50's. I'll be lying in bed thinking about some topic, and my wife will poke me and say, "Turn over, you're snoring", and as far as I can tell I never fell asleep at all. It doesn't affect my rest as far as I can tell. I find it enjoyable.

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This is awesome, but scary. Lucid dreaming is s game where you try to figure out what is real and what is imagined, and your brain tries to trick you. Eventually, your brain wins.

But what’s the difference between you and your brain?

;)

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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I practiced lucid dreaming intensely when I was 18 for over a year and it has been automatic since (it is over 25 years later); I would not miss it for the world. It's like a strong hallucinogenic drug but without the side effects (aka recovery is instant when I wake up). I like doing the things you would think that are great; flying around, getting shot without being hurt (I did it 1000s of times and still find it i…

> but the book I learned lucid dreaming from I was going to ask you how you learned and practiced lucid dreaming. What book was that?

This requires a bit of backstory; I grew up in a very small village with a very small library. The village as a whole was very religious and most books in the library were screened by bible thumbing community members. I had ‘internet’ of sorts through BBS systems which gatewayed to international gopher, ftp and other systems but books were books. One of the books that slipped through the cracks was a outer body experience book. I am an atheist; always was while raised christian; I always asked the questions I was not allowed to ask and I never found anything in religion remotely believable even though everyone around me (without exception) was devout. I do not believe in outer body experience but it was something else to read for a change. So I read it and it contained a training for doing OBE, which is, in fact, lucid dreaming. And I can see how someone can see lucid dreaming for OBE or even signs of god and an afterlife. It is pretty convincing. I have spoken to dead people, next to my bed. I remember the conversations. I have met and talked to people I have never met and so forth. I have seen angels (as our earthly brain would imagine them; lot of light and very friendly). But these were all dreams and we all dream like that: most people just forget what they dream. This book gave me the training to do this at will and even change my dreams significantly.

The all fail the tests that come later in the same book (I will try to find it); the book trains you to fall through your bedroom floor and check the table in your own house for something. Then to prove it is OBE, someone puts something there, like an ace of spades and the next day you tell what it was. Cool so ofcourse I tried this; I fell through my bed, through the floor (which was made of wood which it was not) and floated over the livingroom table, saw a big white paper with a square. Told my sister this: there was no square, there was an ace of spades. It was, ofcourse, a dream but I was far more amazed I could get my brain so far as to do what I set out to do: create a dream in which I do what I wanted before I went to sleep. That I can no longer do at will; that required a lot of training.

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Just throwing this out there. I've had hundreds of lucid dreams and it's the most amazing experiences I've have in my life. It takes practice to 1) figure out you're dreaming with some level of reliability 2) learn to take control 3) train yourself not to get too excited so you don't wake yourself almost immediately. I believe the first step is to train yourself to recognize a dream. It becomes easier once you've don…

To contrast with the parent poster,I've had lucid dreaming before and it was a quite boring actually. Everything was muddled and blurry, nothing comparable with the real world. It felt like I was telling myself a story and my unconscious mind would go along with it and the dream would follow it.

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you should read hackernews during your next lucid dream and bring us back some of the topics

Reading is weird during dreams, lucid or otherwise. I recently had a very odd dream in which I thought I was awake, but lying in bed with my eyes closed. I was amazed that I could still see! I picked up a piece of clear plastic package and opened my eyes, and it was totally blank. Then, I closed my eyes, still able to see, and suddenly the packaging was covered with writing in all kinds of fonts, points, and colors.…

I've had the experience of dreaming of a book or even a movie that I'd seemingly created, with an agonizing desire to somehow copy it to retain it before I wake up.

Such things made me think about the difference between actually reading or watching something in a dream, and merely having the feeling that I did. Did the writing I thought I read/wrote really exist in my mind such that I lost something on waking up?

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Just throwing this out there. I've had hundreds of lucid dreams and it's the most amazing experiences I've have in my life. It takes practice to 1) figure out you're dreaming with some level of reliability 2) learn to take control 3) train yourself not to get too excited so you don't wake yourself almost immediately. I believe the first step is to train yourself to recognize a dream. It becomes easier once you've don…

Have you ever done psychedelics? If so, how does it compare?

They're completely different. Psychedelics change your perception and thought processes in a way that's completely different than a lucid dream.

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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I practiced lucid dreaming intensely when I was 18 for over a year and it has been automatic since (it is over 25 years later); I would not miss it for the world. It's like a strong hallucinogenic drug but without the side effects (aka recovery is instant when I wake up). I like doing the things you would think that are great; flying around, getting shot without being hurt (I did it 1000s of times and still find it i…

Can you recommend any guide how to learn lucid dreaming?
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