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Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Post by jjeaff »

barbs wrote: post #165
ptrincr wrote: post #153

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Thanks for sharing your experience. Can I ask how you found your sleep paralysis encounters? (for want of a better word). Personally I've found them deeply disturbing. Throughout my life I have experienced moments of sleep paralysis at most on 10 occasions. They've left a big impact though, and I sympathize with anyone who has the misfortune of feeling as though you are trapped and unable to move. After watching the…

I'm not the parent but I experience sleep paralysis fairly regularly - maybe once or twice a month. It's happened enough times that I can usually recognise it and can either try to wake myself up or wait until I go back to sleep, so it's not particularly scary. It depends though - if I get sleep paralysis coming out of a nightmare it can be fairly uncomfortable, but not much more than if I were to have just the night…

Have you ever been checked for sleep apnea? Sleep paralysis is a common symptom.

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Post by jjeaff »

vokep wrote: post #134
apo wrote: post #102

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Having done this deliberately in the past and had some fairly wacky side-effects Such as?

False memories are one which many have experienced, as well as mentioned above, increased chance of sleep paralysis. Increased SP doesn't seem so bad, just maybe inconvenient. Building up more and more false memories doesn't seem like a great idea.

I've always had trouble with false memories. Not of anything important, but I sometimes dream of very mundane things, like moving my wallet or keys. Or telling someone something.

Makes it very difficult to keep track of things.

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Post by tluyben2 »

I practiced lucid dreaming intensely when I was 18 for over a year and it has been automatic since (it is over 25 years later); I would not miss it for the world. It's like a strong hallucinogenic drug but without the side effects (aka recovery is instant when I wake up). I like doing the things you would think that are great; flying around, getting shot without being hurt (I did it 1000s of times and still find it interesting when the bullet goes in but it doesn't hurt; very strange feelings as my brain signals imminent and possibly lethal damage), fighting with robots, having sex and so on. And everything (well, for as far as I know that is; many things I dream I have never experienced, but it my brain at least thinks they would feel like that) feels like the real thing. Also in real life I have fear of heights; in my dreams I like to fly as high as I can and then swoop down over the lands (which are often rain forests with maya temples for some reason).

I do solve programming problems in those dreams, at least I think so; I wake up with a clear path to attacking those problems I went to sleep with and I do have lucid dreams where I am discussing those issues with someone. Always someone who I 'feel' I know, but who looks very different than they do in real life. I definitely would find going to sleep a lot more boring without these dreams. Advantage I find as well (I am not sure if everyone has this, but the book I learned lucid dreaming from says it's one of the side effects) is that I remember all my dreams.

I have long been curious about the following; since I have been wearing wristbands like the Fitto, which measures sleep, I notice something which could be related (or Fitto etc sleep measurement is just bullshit; I had it with multiple brands though); compared to everyone I know, I spend far more time in REM and deep sleep; far more than my comparable age group. I spend, comparatively, very little time in light or awake state every night. Wonder how this is for other lucid dreamers.

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Post by twfarland »

tluyben2 wrote: post #184

I practiced lucid dreaming intensely when I was 18 for over a year and it has been automatic since (it is over 25 years later); I would not miss it for the world. It's like a strong hallucinogenic drug but without the side effects (aka recovery is instant when I wake up). I like doing the things you would think that are great; flying around, getting shot without being hurt (I did it 1000s of times and still find it i…

Had a similar experience - started as a teenager and now it's automatic. Also dreams are becoming more abstract, more visceral, and more epic as I age.

Sometimes wish I could turn it off, though - it can be exhausting. I'd like sleep to be more restful by default but have a way to choose to have a lucid dream if desired.

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Post by daenz »

bloomthrowaway wrote: post #118
bencollier49 wrote: post #91

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Learning to lucid dream is basically giving yourself a sleep disorder on purpose. Having done this deliberately in the past and had some fairly wacky side-effects, I think it's worth people considering the negatives if they style trying to induce lucidity.

I could believe it ruins sleep quality definitely. Even with experience it's hard to keep your mind from fully waking during periods of lucidity. I've managed to go an hour or two many times but it invariably ends with me waking at a random time in the middle of the night

Anecdotally I tried for a few weeks to lucid dream and had success a few times, but both mornings after the lucid dreams I felt absolutely exhausted.

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Post by crehn »

ModernMech wrote: post #73
scrollaway wrote: post #45

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I used to lucid dream pretty naturally, then stopped because I started getting very regular sleep paralysis. Nowadays when I do end up lucid dreaming (most often by accident) I notice a fairly significant drop in sleep quality. Even worse, I sometimes lucid dream, then "awaken" into another dream where I'm not lucid and those experiences really fuck with me. On a different note I'd love to get a high quality sleep-tr…

> I started getting very regular sleep paralysis. I do not blame you. I've experienced sleep paralysis more than once, and it is not pleasant at all. I remember trying to scream at the top of my lungs in my head for... I don't know how long but my perception of it was that it was for hours on end. Then all of a sudden something broke through, and I woke my wife up with the loudest scream she's ever heard out of anyon…

It's not a fun experience.

A year or so ago, I woke up during the night and felt tingling in my feet. The tingling kept increasing in intensity and seemed to slowly rise along my limbs. A few seconds later, I suddenly heard someone shout with an aggressive but soft voice next to my ear, and felt eerily realistic hands grab my arms and vigorously scratch my right palm. In absolute terror, I remember trying to scream and shake it off, but I couldn't move. And it felt so real. A few seconds later I managed to snap off the paralysis, and rocketed out of my bed. I didn't sleep that night.

Re: Pre-sleep treatment with galantamine stimulates lucid dreaming

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Post by ianai »

GoodOldNe wrote: post #155

This is an interesting study but I have several methodologic concerns and feel like nobody is discussing conflict of interest here. This is done at an institute owned and managed by one researcher, recruited from attendees of a seminar on lucid dreaming, approved by the ethics committee of that institute, and using a gold standard self-report rating scale that the primary author also invented. I am very curious about…

Indeed, the world needs a better way to fund health and research.
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