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Botched CIA Communications System Helped Blow Cover of Chinese Agents

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Re: Botched CIA Communications System Helped Blow Cover of Chinese Agents

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There's still "number stations" broadcasting over shortwave radio. If it ain't broke, don't fix it?!

Number stations, though, are usually used for things like one-time pads or to send a previously agreed upon command. Detailed instructions are not really what number stations are good for.

time, date, longitude, latitude is just below the length of an average number station transfer

Re: Botched CIA Communications System Helped Blow Cover of Chinese Agents

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Binney is a complete crank.. I'd be very cautious of any first person narratives that he tells, especially when he paints himself as the hero.

You can't say shit like this without backing it up. I think you are full of it and just attempting character assassination.

I mean.. Have you heard anything he's said lately?

Here's his appearance on Infowars.. where he explains to Alex Jones how the "deep state" is setting up Donald Trump by scapegoating the Russians: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5XE96G5kN0

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Shows a contradiction/hypocrisy. They have the money, but just choose to spend it on corporations and not humans.

No, it shows that unfortunately you don't know what you're talking about. Federal employee salaries are set by legislation and may not be changed. They can't get bonuses or anything else. Contracts are bid and are paid out of completely different budgets.

> you don't know what you're talking about

Please keep personal swipes out of HN comments. Your post would be fine without the first sentence.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Botched CIA Communications System Helped Blow Cover of Chinese Agents

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Between the lines: it was Tor. Deploys on computers. Web-based. Detectable through decryption or pattern analysis. Firewalls. It was a pair of Tor hidden services. The mistake was probably that they ran both on the same machine with only a firewall separating them, rather than physically different servers.

And on the hidden website there was a link back to cia.gov somewhere. On the other hand I'm surprised tor works in China at all. I would expect the Great Firewall to shut down all entrance/exit nodes going into or out of the country, except maybe for a few controlled by the government.

The security level varies frequently. It's known that meek still works in China, which is probably a major reason why both Google and Amazon have shut down domain fronting.

Re: Botched CIA Communications System Helped Blow Cover of Chinese Agents

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Maybe they should have used BBM/iMessage/WhatsApp - all the civilian gear governments are screaming they need backdoors into because they’re too tough to crack... Yes I say this partly in jest and also partly as a ‘why didn’t they’. BBM Enterprise over a VPN service popular with movie streamers would have actually helped them blend in... digitally speaking.

Just because the Albuquerque Police Department can't crack doesn't mean the NSA can't. Interesting point about blending in, but I suspect they thought they could build a system more secure than the commercial options and/or didn't trust their security in the hands of a third party.

Security is hard. I’d take a commercial system that has years of history and that many major governments have rallied against (BES) over a home-grown system that obviously got tested in the field... and cost lives!
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