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Elon Musk Confronts a Fateful Tweet and an ‘Excruciating’ Year

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Re: Elon Musk Confronts a Fateful Tweet and an ‘Excruciating’ Year

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>>He said he had been working up to 120 hours a week recently

>>Mr. Musk said he had not taken time off of more than a week since 2001

>>There were times when I didn’t leave the factory for three or four days — days when I didn’t go outside

>>This has really come at the expense of seeing my kids. And seeing friends.

>>All night — no friends, nothing

>>But from a personal pain standpoint, the worst is yet to come.

>>It is often a choice of no sleep or Ambien

These are dangerous levels of stress. The work alone even without all that big company, big expectation pressure can wear you down.

I can only imagine what he must be going through. You don't have rest or sleep, on top of it there is a perennial pressure of saving a big company, and you are also chasing your world altering plans. I guess almost any minor irritation, let alone some thing like the being reminded of short sellers of the impending doom, could trigger a uncontrollable response.

I've been there, you just look for any hint of hope, and you feel like lashing out at any thing that is interfering in the path to your cause. You are irritated all the time. Criticism, even genuine largely looks like conspiracy. And you mark any one standing in your way as a enemy.

I'm a nobody to offer advice. But it looks some one needs to sit him down, may be even family, and ask him to relax. Before some big failure happens and some more serious mental issue hits him in the face, and it forces him to hurt himself.

Re: Elon Musk Confronts a Fateful Tweet and an ‘Excruciating’ Year

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post #51

>>He said he had been working up to 120 hours a week recently >>Mr. Musk said he had not taken time off of more than a week since 2001 >>There were times when I didn’t leave the factory for three or four days — days when I didn’t go outside >>This has really come at the expense of seeing my kids. And seeing friends. >>All night — no friends, nothing >>But from a personal pain standpoint, the worst is yet to come. >>I…

You're thinking about it wrong. Working 120 hours a week at a normal job is torture. Working 120 hours at something you love is just living.

The 120 hour/week estimates are likely over-inflated folk-lore, but still, when you have a passion for something and care, it's not work, you're just living your life the way you want to.

Many say Elon long work-weeks are super-human, they're not. He's just loves doing what he's doing, so why do anything else.

Re: Elon Musk Confronts a Fateful Tweet and an ‘Excruciating’ Year

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If you've read the biography by Ashlee Vance this shouldn't surprise you. Musk has always been a guy who runs at 100%, even at the sake of his personal life. On the one hand it's inspiring but also very concerning. The board should insist upon a COO.

> "even at the sake of his personal life"

This is the wrong attitude. Musk doesn't sacrifice his personal life for work, his work is his life. If anything, he sacrifices his work life for the few personal connections he is forced to make.

I definitely don't pity Musk, he found his calling and is answering it, he can deal with the consequences.

Re: Elon Musk Confronts a Fateful Tweet and an ‘Excruciating’ Year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know if you’ve ever put your whole body and life in to a project, but we can push ourselves well past our healthy limits. It can genuinely be hard on our bodies and our minds.

Very little sympathy from me for someone suffering from the delusions of grandeur combined with self-martyrdom, especially when combined with the petty foolishness constantly on display from him. And for what? To blow off his brothers wedding as described in the article to resume pacing the tesla plant speaks volumes about this guys character.

ndespres people are different, and hope you are enjoying your life in your way. What Musk is experiencing is not extrinsic and he is not martyr for anyone. He does this because it is the most remarkable drive he has about life. It just happens to him because of his biology and it is not a calculated act. Fulfilling that intrinsic drive is the most rewarding feeling one can experience.

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But, he added, “if you have anyone who can do a better job, please let me know. They can have the job. Is there someone who can do the job better? They can have the reins right now.” I think this hits at the crux of the issue around the performance/behaviour of Musk and other leaders of hugely ambitious companies. And I think it highlights the importance of thinking about what kinds of people it will take to lead the…

I would really liked for Tesla and Space X to keep the hype down, then we could have discussed here forever technical stuff and not debate the hyped PR stunts.

Re: Elon Musk Confronts a Fateful Tweet and an ‘Excruciating’ Year

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But, he added, “if you have anyone who can do a better job, please let me know. They can have the job. Is there someone who can do the job better? They can have the reins right now.” I think this hits at the crux of the issue around the performance/behaviour of Musk and other leaders of hugely ambitious companies. And I think it highlights the importance of thinking about what kinds of people it will take to lead the…

I've long resigned to the fact that there will always be ambitious assholes in the world. The best we can hope for is to corral the assholes in the right space. An asshole leading a tech/space company is far better than an asshole leading an oil company or running a country.

Re: Elon Musk Confronts a Fateful Tweet and an ‘Excruciating’ Year

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But, he added, “if you have anyone who can do a better job, please let me know. They can have the job. Is there someone who can do the job better? They can have the reins right now.” I think this hits at the crux of the issue around the performance/behaviour of Musk and other leaders of hugely ambitious companies. And I think it highlights the importance of thinking about what kinds of people it will take to lead the…

On one hand, fuck the short seller bad news pushers. On the other hand, there are rules, Walter.

Like you say, there's nobody like him, nobody effectively pursuing the same goals, and we truly do need him, so I hope he gets out of this relatively unscathed. On the other hand, you can't just lie about material stuff like this and be trusted to lead a company.

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I wouldn't include the self-driving tech among the world-changing progress. Climate change is a pressing disaster for our whole species; self-driving cars are not urgent enough to be pursued with the same intensity, and are dangerous enough to deserve more rigour.

3.5 million new cars are registered every year in Germany alone. If we can replace a significant amount of that with cheap, shared, swlf-driving electrics it'll be a massive step towards carbon neutrality.

>3.5 million new cars are registered every year in Germany alone. If we can replace a significant amount of that with cheap, shared, swlf-driving electrics it'll be a massive step towards carbon neutrality.

Sell the electic cars today and sell the autopilot extension hardware and software where actually works, pushing the hype can have a huge negative impact like very strong autopilot testing regulations. because of dreedy corporation pushing things that are not ready or over the air updates that are not tested.

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