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The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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Post by trukterious »

simczak wrote: post #59
trukterious wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, discipline is needed, but knowledge helps too, because it shows some of the directions in which discipline may be applied, for example: One can learn that carb and fructose-rich foods are addictive and cause diabetes when consumed in excess. One can learn that drinking alcohol just before eating causes the liver to prioritise metabolising alcohol and the other calories go into visceral fat (the so-called 'beer b…

Can you elaborate on that: “One can learn that people who aren't even slightly fat are killing themselves from drug overdose, which may seem irrelevant until one recalls that many people eat for comfort. (So this is a personal/mental problem as well as a physiological one.)“

Well, people eat for comfort and pleasure, as well as for calories, and some people get addicted to food. So I think if we understood addiction and how to cure it then this might automatically solve the obesity epidemic as well as the drug problem.

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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Post by IAmTheTucan »

I've eaten one meal a day for years. I don't do it because I'm on a diet though. I do it because I like to eat big meals. A big dinner is much more enjoyable than a tiny breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I don't get hungry at all.

People apparently think this is strange but I'm equally baffled by the assumed need to eat three times a day. Like, you'll be okay, lol.

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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Post by sridca »

andai wrote: post #24
JoshMnem wrote: post #18

I've been experimenting with calorie restriction, water fasting, and intermittent fasting for 2 1/2 years and you don't need to go as extreme as one meal per day to see results. The hunger gets much easier to manage. I don't think that people should do it without also adopting a high-nutrient diet (vegetables, legumes, whole foods, nuts, seeds, fruits, etc.), because there isn't much room for empty calories.

I just finished a month on a beef-only diet and I've never felt so good in my life. Stable energy all day, the bottomless pit in my stomach is gone (a combination of depression, cravings, and not feeling satiated). Two days ago I ran out of money for beef, so I'm back to eating mostly carbs (and grains), and within 36 hours my depression and skin problems are back. It's amazing, like an on/off switch for my well bein…

More reports like this at http://meatheals.com

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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Post by sridca »

IAmTheTucan wrote: post #62

I've eaten one meal a day for years. I don't do it because I'm on a diet though. I do it because I like to eat big meals. A big dinner is much more enjoyable than a tiny breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I don't get hungry at all. People apparently think this is strange but I'm equally baffled by the assumed need to eat three times a day. Like, you'll be okay, lol.

Do you feel sleepy after the big dinner?

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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Post by toomanybeersies »

IAmTheTucan wrote: post #62

I've eaten one meal a day for years. I don't do it because I'm on a diet though. I do it because I like to eat big meals. A big dinner is much more enjoyable than a tiny breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I don't get hungry at all. People apparently think this is strange but I'm equally baffled by the assumed need to eat three times a day. Like, you'll be okay, lol.

I'm in the same boat. I haven't eaten breakfast as a regular thing in about 5 years, I just don't enjoy eating cereal and don't have time to cook up a proper breakfast and eat it. I'll usually have a big lunch, and then a small supper (often something like an avocado and some corn).

People say that breakfast is the most important meal of the day, but I feel no ill effects from skipping it. People just love to repeat things they heard years ago like they're some kind of ground truth. My mum still goes on about how I shouldn't add salt to food and I should avoid fat like it's the devil. And now that I've become a vegetarian, I'm getting the full force of years of marketing from the red meat lobby coming from her.

The human body is remarkably capable of managing to operate in a variety of conditions. Whether that's a vegan diet, or an Inuit diet that consists almost solely of meat; intermittent fasting, or continuous grazing.

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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Post by horsecaptin »

andai wrote: post #37
horsecaptin wrote: post #32

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I've experienced similar results on a low-carb vegan diet - no hunger, mental clarity etc.

I'd like to hear more about your diet. I was a vegan before switching to meat only.

It may be as boring as the all meat diet =).

Nuts, avocados vegetables, leafy greens, mushrooms, berries. Coconut and olive oils.

Most of the time this manifests as:

- Salad with nuts in it. Dressing is chopped cilantro, lime juice, salt and olive oil, which seems to go really well with leafy greens. I can eat this salad for one meal everyday.

- Some kind of a curry or stir fry or soup with vegetables and mushrooms.

- Frozen berries for dessert.

- Salted pistachios for snaking.

It is easy to follow but it does get boring. So, when I crave something else like dessert or bread or fish or whatever then I indulge. That makes it easy to follow the regular diet the rest of the time.

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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Post by andai »

horsecaptin wrote: post #66
andai wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to hear more about your diet. I was a vegan before switching to meat only.

It may be as boring as the all meat diet =). Nuts, avocados vegetables, leafy greens, mushrooms, berries. Coconut and olive oils. Most of the time this manifests as: - Salad with nuts in it. Dressing is chopped cilantro, lime juice, salt and olive oil, which seems to go really well with leafy greens. I can eat this salad for one meal everyday. - Some kind of a curry or stir fry or soup with vegetables and mushrooms.…

Thanks a lot! I've taken some notes.

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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Post by horsecaptin »

andai wrote: post #67
horsecaptin wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may be as boring as the all meat diet =). Nuts, avocados vegetables, leafy greens, mushrooms, berries. Coconut and olive oils. Most of the time this manifests as: - Salad with nuts in it. Dressing is chopped cilantro, lime juice, salt and olive oil, which seems to go really well with leafy greens. I can eat this salad for one meal everyday. - Some kind of a curry or stir fry or soup with vegetables and mushrooms.…

Thanks a lot! I've taken some notes.

You bet!

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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Post by KozmoNau7 »

trukterious wrote: post #12
KozmoNau7 wrote: post #3

Fad diets here, fad diets there, fad diets everywhere. Don't eat this, only eat that, don't eat at these times, only eat at these times, fast, don't fast. It's been going on for decades, and it's both silly and counterproductive. There is no easy shortcut to losing weight and being in good health. It takes discipline and dedication, and a complete lifestyle change. Yes, it's hard, but we just have to deal with that,…

Yes, discipline is needed, but knowledge helps too, because it shows some of the directions in which discipline may be applied, for example: One can learn that carb and fructose-rich foods are addictive and cause diabetes when consumed in excess. One can learn that drinking alcohol just before eating causes the liver to prioritise metabolising alcohol and the other calories go into visceral fat (the so-called 'beer b…

All of those are absolutely miniscule when compared to the effect of undermoving and overeating.

The carb/fructose thing is scaremongering. Type 1 diabetes is genetic, type 2 partially genetic, and is not caused solely by carbs/fructose. One of its factors is a generally poor-quality diet, but saturated/trans fat intake plays a larger role than sugars. And all of that is completely dwarfed by the influence of obesity on the risk of contracting type 2 diabetes.

Drinking alcohol does make your body prioritize metabolizing it first, but alcohol also slows down digestion and can make you feel fuller for longer, leading to a decreased food intake. "Beer belly" is a myth.

Eating at night or before going to be is not unhealthier than eating during the day. That has been debunked countless times.

Food addiction is a real thing, however. And unlike tobacco or alcohol, you can't go "cold turkey" (haha) on food and just stop eating. You need rules, motivation and backup.

This is the best FAQ I've found is this: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=34...

Yes, it's SA, notorious for its bad comedy forums. But the exercise and diet forum is seriously quality stuff, with hundreds of success stories of fat nerds getting in shape, and keeping it.

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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Post by trukterious »

KozmoNau7 wrote: post #69
trukterious wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, discipline is needed, but knowledge helps too, because it shows some of the directions in which discipline may be applied, for example: One can learn that carb and fructose-rich foods are addictive and cause diabetes when consumed in excess. One can learn that drinking alcohol just before eating causes the liver to prioritise metabolising alcohol and the other calories go into visceral fat (the so-called 'beer b…

All of those are absolutely miniscule when compared to the effect of undermoving and overeating. The carb/fructose thing is scaremongering. Type 1 diabetes is genetic, type 2 partially genetic, and is not caused solely by carbs/fructose. One of its factors is a generally poor-quality diet, but saturated/trans fat intake plays a larger role than sugars. And all of that is completely dwarfed by the influence of obesity…

Cold turkey sounds like a healthy diet :-)

But seriously, the idea that saturated fat causes type II diabetes is news to me. Can you provide an explanation and/or sources? Thank you.

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