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The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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It's funny how a lot of these articles start out about how the diet made them feel so good and it felt so natural. By the end they've gained back the weight. If it was so great why couldn't you continue with it? The obvious answer is that in the beginning it was new and exciting and the drawbacks were ignored.

People think a diet is something you can just do for a while, and then stop. You need to make a permanent lifestyle change, and most people are unwilling to make the commitment.

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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I've started low-carb (very few fruits - like strawberry, raspberry, occasional orange), just a bit of veggies, and mostly meat, cheese and othr dairy products (no milk though). Seems to work fine for me, was able to lose 30-40lbs in several months, without any calorie restriction.

When feeling that I need something sweet, coffee helps a lot then, and lately have been taking a chunk of 100% cocoa solids Montezuma's chocolate.

Had N of (lights) beers for the number of months that have passed :) (Used to be quite a beer drinker, IPA's, Stout, etc.)

But one meal a day is probably going to be hard to keep on - socially, and just in general.

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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post #52

I've started low-carb (very few fruits - like strawberry, raspberry, occasional orange), just a bit of veggies, and mostly meat, cheese and othr dairy products (no milk though). Seems to work fine for me, was able to lose 30-40lbs in several months, without any calorie restriction. When feeling that I need something sweet, coffee helps a lot then, and lately have been taking a chunk of 100% cocoa solids Montezuma's c…

I've done something simmilar (keto) with one meal a day. I lose cravings eventually but when starting my big go-to for sweet cravings is almond milk and super salted cashews.

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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Fad diets here, fad diets there, fad diets everywhere. Don't eat this, only eat that, don't eat at these times, only eat at these times, fast, don't fast. It's been going on for decades, and it's both silly and counterproductive. There is no easy shortcut to losing weight and being in good health. It takes discipline and dedication, and a complete lifestyle change. Yes, it's hard, but we just have to deal with that,…

I don't know if it's fair to call this a fad diet, considering they have been eating in this manner literally since the time of the buddha(~500 BC).

For them it's obviously not a fad, it's a lifestyle they've been keeping up for hundreds of years.

In a western context, with the way it's sold in this article, it's certainly a fad diet.

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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I've been experimenting with calorie restriction, water fasting, and intermittent fasting for 2 1/2 years and you don't need to go as extreme as one meal per day to see results. The hunger gets much easier to manage. I don't think that people should do it without also adopting a high-nutrient diet (vegetables, legumes, whole foods, nuts, seeds, fruits, etc.), because there isn't much room for empty calories.

I just finished a month on a beef-only diet and I've never felt so good in my life. Stable energy all day, the bottomless pit in my stomach is gone (a combination of depression, cravings, and not feeling satiated). Two days ago I ran out of money for beef, so I'm back to eating mostly carbs (and grains), and within 36 hours my depression and skin problems are back. It's amazing, like an on/off switch for my well bein…

Why beef over other sources of protein? Why not fish, birds, or other mammals?

Red (mammal) meat contains a particular glycan (Neu5Gc) that accumulates in our bodies when we eat it. Some studies have argued that this particular glycan causes cancer and inflammation: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4299224/

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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I wonder whether calories in - calories out is too simplistic a picture. Why do people put on antipsychotics gain an ungodly amount of weight? If metabolism slows down sufficiently, it will take more effort to burn those calories you take in (even if one hasn't substantially increased ones intake). This is a complex issue and I wish more scientists studied the link between medications and weight gain.

I've always felt that the biggest oversimplification in these diet conversations is taking too much about nutrition and what's 'healthy'.

Losing weight to combat obesity and just generally being healthy to maintain your weight are two different situations. You take meds to address specific illnesses.

Need to lose weight? Calories in and out is probably 80% of the nutritional knowledge you need. Everything else is just psychology. What keeps you consistent? 5 small meals or one big one? Try em both. See what sticks. Simple. Not Easy, but simple.

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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post #52

I've started low-carb (very few fruits - like strawberry, raspberry, occasional orange), just a bit of veggies, and mostly meat, cheese and othr dairy products (no milk though). Seems to work fine for me, was able to lose 30-40lbs in several months, without any calorie restriction. When feeling that I need something sweet, coffee helps a lot then, and lately have been taking a chunk of 100% cocoa solids Montezuma's c…

I've done something simmilar (keto) with one meal a day. I lose cravings eventually but when starting my big go-to for sweet cravings is almond milk and super salted cashews.

Tried almond milk time ago, and wasn't my taste, but really love almonds, peanuts and my secret sin: sunflower seeds (loved them since I was a kid).

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

#58
post #24

I've been experimenting with calorie restriction, water fasting, and intermittent fasting for 2 1/2 years and you don't need to go as extreme as one meal per day to see results. The hunger gets much easier to manage. I don't think that people should do it without also adopting a high-nutrient diet (vegetables, legumes, whole foods, nuts, seeds, fruits, etc.), because there isn't much room for empty calories.

I just finished a month on a beef-only diet and I've never felt so good in my life. Stable energy all day, the bottomless pit in my stomach is gone (a combination of depression, cravings, and not feeling satiated). Two days ago I ran out of money for beef, so I'm back to eating mostly carbs (and grains), and within 36 hours my depression and skin problems are back. It's amazing, like an on/off switch for my well bein…

Please keep an eye on your health. There are more studies coming out that this diet is not stable for the long term. Mostly it increase insulin resistance and leads to diabetes.

It might be that you respond because you have an underlying issue with a certain complex starch (see the FODMAPs diet that can help you see what sugar it might be) or a genetic/nutritional deficency.

On an anecdotal note, my brother went keto to loose weight! He felt great but a year later he had ankylosis spondylitis and open heart surgery. So it helped him in no way even though he los5 weight and “felt better”.

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

#59

Fad diets here, fad diets there, fad diets everywhere. Don't eat this, only eat that, don't eat at these times, only eat at these times, fast, don't fast. It's been going on for decades, and it's both silly and counterproductive. There is no easy shortcut to losing weight and being in good health. It takes discipline and dedication, and a complete lifestyle change. Yes, it's hard, but we just have to deal with that,…

Yes, discipline is needed, but knowledge helps too, because it shows some of the directions in which discipline may be applied, for example: One can learn that carb and fructose-rich foods are addictive and cause diabetes when consumed in excess. One can learn that drinking alcohol just before eating causes the liver to prioritise metabolising alcohol and the other calories go into visceral fat (the so-called 'beer b…

Can you elaborate on that:

“One can learn that people who aren't even slightly fat are killing themselves from drug overdose, which may seem irrelevant until one recalls that many people eat for comfort. (So this is a personal/mental problem as well as a physiological one.)“

Re: The Bhikkhu Diet (2003)

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just finished a month on a beef-only diet and I've never felt so good in my life. Stable energy all day, the bottomless pit in my stomach is gone (a combination of depression, cravings, and not feeling satiated). Two days ago I ran out of money for beef, so I'm back to eating mostly carbs (and grains), and within 36 hours my depression and skin problems are back. It's amazing, like an on/off switch for my well bein…

Why beef over other sources of protein? Why not fish, birds, or other mammals? Red (mammal) meat contains a particular glycan (Neu5Gc) that accumulates in our bodies when we eat it. Some studies have argued that this particular glycan causes cancer and inflammation: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4299224/

A friend with similar symptoms to mine got better after trying a beef diet. I don't like fish or pork, and I don't respond well to chicken. I can eat eggs (nice and cheap) but not too many or I get bad headaches. I eventually discovered studies that found eggs to be the #1 migraine trigger food.
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