If you have children, don't own guns.
She went to her brother's place. It was his hunting rifle. Do you comment on stories about Nikki Catsouras that her family should not have owned a Porsche? Or a car at all?
Katie's New Face
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#153If you have children, don't own guns.
Also, don't own a pool, a dog, a house with stairs, a car, a rope, kitchen knifes, or cook with fire.
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#155If I'm ever in this situation, I hope somebody just Million Dollar Baby's me.
Did you possibly mean Six Million Dollar Man?
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#156> The face surgeons go first. But since organs are precious and face transplants are not lifesaving, if the donor’s condition started to decline , the team would have to abandon its work to allow other surgeons to collect the donated organs. What exactly is meant with "if the donor's condition started to decline"? How does one monitor the condition of organs in a dead body? What technology is used to monitor the stat…
Given the 3 days between death and operation and the ventilator, sounds like a case of someone in a coma and being declared dead due to brain function ceasing. In such cases basic stuff like heartbeat etc is still running on its own (otherwise the tissue wouldn't be supplied with oxygen and die), so there's still vital signs to monitor.
Thanks for explaining
They mentioned cocaine, I never realized you could die by cocaine? What is LD50 of cocaine in street units, say "lines"?
Why are some people in coma declared dead and others kept alive? Have people ever "recovered" from coma? Is it a question of permission from next of kin to keep the patient alive? Or does it boil down to a financial question?
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would guess that it's swelling and scar tissue buildup (fibrosis) from the surgery and ongoing autoimmune response. As far as her immune system is concerned, the grafted face is a foreign invader. She's going to take anti-rejection drugs her whole life and she will always be at risk for total rejection in the future.
I can confirm that cyclosporin and prednisone, two immunosuppressive medications, make the patient bigger.
Oh, that's true I'd forgotten about that. They're usually steroids and that's a common side effect.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Go visit Taliban controlled Afghanistan when girls couldn’t go to school. Visit areas of Afghanistan after the US cleared Taliban areas and built schools. The girls that can now go to school aren’t rich and powerful, but it’s a fact that fighting that war helped make that possible.
...except that now (at least AFAIU) we're backing out of those areas and the Taliban are right back in control. Maybe that military-intervention-as-societal-revenge-plot wasn't so helpful?
Precisely because the war wasn't finished... political pressure led to the military being recalled and this is the outcome. Rebuilding a nation does not just happen in a few months, it takes decades of peace. The biggest problem is the lack of commitment, due in part to a public that has lost touch with what conflict is and the will it takes to fight.
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Fair enough. I think we need to market images of badly disfigured veterans as a tragedy instead of an honor.
I hate the glamorization of the military. I don't understand how anyone would actually join. Sacrifice yourself mentally, and physically to fight political wars for the rich and powerful. No thank you. But the propaganda is soooo strong it preys on people who can't think for themselves.
Not everyone in the military is fighting wars all the time. Many people are getting educations and building careers in normal professions that just happen to be part of the military organization.
The front-line soldiers are a small percentage, and they deserve respect for their sacrifices regardless of why they chose to join. It's easy to take freedom and peace for granted without knowing just how much conflict and blood it requires.
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#160> The face surgeons go first. But since organs are precious and face transplants are not lifesaving, if the donor’s condition started to decline , the team would have to abandon its work to allow other surgeons to collect the donated organs. What exactly is meant with "if the donor's condition started to decline"? How does one monitor the condition of organs in a dead body? What technology is used to monitor the stat…
I’m only an EMT, but I can try to answer this for you. The organ donor was brain dead, but the heart continued to beat and a ventilator was used. The organs would stay perfused with oxygen and nutrients and the surgery would be performed as if the donor were otherwise alive. Surgery is inherently risky - risks include spontaneous bleeding or clotting that could abruptly end the organ recovery. I believe this is the s…
As an EMT do you frequently witness people being pronounced/determined brain dead? If so what does it look like? I can't imagine an EEG device being attached to each presumed dead patient to double check? Or is that in fact what happens to each patient dying in the care of a hospital?
I am very fascinated about the possible technology involved for monitorinng the state of these organs while the face was being removed. Or am I overimagining and its mostly heart rate, and blood content (oxygen, glucose, what others?) ?
Us normal citizens -seldom in contact with death- we must have an oversimplified view of alive vs dead: atomic (before and after) and monolithic (the whole person is dead, or the whole person is alive), while we are in fact multicellular organisms and some cells have more demanding needs to be met depending on cell type, location in the body, and so on. I can imagine a failing human body prioritizes the functionality of some organs over others?
In the text they mention that donor side and acceptor side can initiate communication through the centralized authority, without obligation to respond, and if they both consent they are allowed to meet each othe as happened here.
Here they had to request explicit permission for the face.
What happens if there was not enough time for properly removing the face yet the donor's next of kin try to ccontact the (non-existent) acceptor? Do they get by policy a "no counterparty response" boilerplate, or are they informed that in fact there was no recipient due to complications?