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Vaping 'can damage vital immune system cells'

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Re: Vaping 'can damage vital immune system cells'

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Post by marenkay »

krageon wrote: post #78
marenkay wrote: post #77

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Why the downvotes? I was a smoker for twenty years, this is exactly how I quit smoking.

If you have not spoken about this with other people who have quit/are quitting, you should. If you have spoken about quitting with other people who have quit or are still quitting, you would have found out that it is much harder for them than what you are proposing. That, or some vanishingly small chance was hit and you have only people around you who found quitting easy but somehow still smoked a lot before doing so…

I never claimed it was easy. I clearly stated you have to be aware of the root issue that caused picking up smoking.

Re: Vaping 'can damage vital immune system cells'

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Post by jotm »

firemancoder wrote: post #68
ASalazarMX wrote: post #60

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Godwin's law in the wild. Nice.

Almost bot-like response.

Lol, I wonder if it would've been received better if I didn't hint at Mr. Hilter. I'd rather have someone smoke on the street than someone with the flu coughing my way.

Re: Vaping 'can damage vital immune system cells'

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Post by onemoresoop »

k_ wrote: post #34
onemoresoop wrote: post #18

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Remember the days when people were smoking in offices, univs, hospitals, etc? Vaping is 100x less disgusting, less harmful. I see people vaping and it doesn't smell, they don't leave ashes and butts everywhere and it doesn't bother me at all. The second hand nicotine vapor is not "a thing" unless you go to a room where a visible cloud of e-cigs vapor is present. I think we are much better off with people vaping than…

There are e-cigs that do smell, the one in my previous company "vaping" in the open space used some kind of flavor that had a strong [unpleasant] smell, even over 5 meters away. Overall it's a great improvement. I just hope this improvement doesn't come with regressions (more [e-]smokers, especially in public areas and maybe in newer generations) precisely because it is so great an improvement.

You're absolutely right and those are somewhat bothersome. Also there are some units, the bigger ones I've noticed, that have the ability to create a thick dense cloud of vapor as if an invoked spirit is about to materialize into Alladin. These are not cool at all.

At the same time i saw small electronic cigarettes that people use discretely and I think that's a big win to the old nasty and stinky analog cigarettes.

Re: Vaping 'can damage vital immune system cells'

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Post by BleakGreySkies »

zackmorris wrote: post #67
larntz wrote: post #56

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Quitting smoking is one of the hardest things I've ever done. Just reading this thread has brought up some nostalgia. I think ecigs and nicotine gum/lozenges should be encouraged if someone wants to quit. Many people have found them useful bridging the gap between smoking and cessation. Going even a few hours without anything is enough to cause some people give up. Having help might give them confidence to eventually…

Same here. Nicotine is perhaps the very worst drug known to humankind in terms of addictiveness: * High lasts the shortest duration (a few seconds after the last inhale) * High has a high physical factor (relaxation) but a low psychotropic factor (mood-altering effect like alcohol or mj), which is the opposite of something like psychedelics (which can be useful in curing addiction) * High requires a physical adaptati…

I suspect there's a lot of variability in how hard it is quit nicotine.

I stopped smoking after a long pack a day habit with almost no difficulty. No serious physical withdrawal, no serious sustained cravings that persisted past a day or two.

I've had issues with other substances, so it wasn't my amazing willpower that made it easy

Re: Vaping 'can damage vital immune system cells'

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Post by kup0 »

marenkay wrote: post #77
marenkay wrote: post #50

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Or: You could just survive 24 hours without smoking, after which physical challenge is over. From there on it is just a fight against your brain, and also being aware of the root issue that made you pickup smoking. - ex-smoker

Why the downvotes? I was a smoker for twenty years, this is exactly how I quit smoking.

Because your post posits that what works for you works for everyone and seems to ignore the experience of others that have quit

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Post by firemancoder »

AmericanChopper wrote: post #73
firemancoder wrote: post #69

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Fear of the unknown. We still don't know the long term effects, so he may be on to something. Also it's pretty crazy to put a battery that close to your face regularly. I know only a few have exploded, but the risk of that alone would deter me.

>it's pretty crazy to put a battery that close to your face regularly Well... Do you ever answer the phone?

Touche
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