> Two years ago, at age 34, she switched careers and learned how to code.
Oh dear.
People start hating their jobs at 35
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the medical care situation in the US, which is outright designed to help trap people in their jobs. Absolutely! so start working on something right now to free yourself from that. I left a perfectly good first-world country and permanently moved to another one because I liked the quality of life better - you can too!
Theoretically. In practical reality there are quite a lot of obstacles, none of which can't be overcome mind you, but then there's considerations for the other people in your life you'd have to leave behind, the flaws of the country you'd be moving to, etc. It's risk/reward, like almost everything else. Don't be surprised when people rationally choose a lower risk path.
Its also about what you value most; Being happy about everyday, or material things.
For some people its material things like a house, car etc. and thats okay.
Re: People start hating their jobs at 35
#113I think its because through experience people have figured out a lot of unspoken things about what its really like being an employee. They have figured out that its much more about connections and office politics than hard work. They have figured out that there is really no job security, and they could be one layoff wave away from unemployment. They have figured out that its much more about face time and spending lon…
That is probably the time when you become a ghost rower.
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#114Wait, I thought it was supposed to be Millennials that are spoiled and do nothing but complain about their jobs...
Millennials are not so young anymore these days you know
Re: People start hating their jobs at 35
#115I think its because through experience people have figured out a lot of unspoken things about what its really like being an employee. They have figured out that its much more about connections and office politics than hard work. They have figured out that there is really no job security, and they could be one layoff wave away from unemployment. They have figured out that its much more about face time and spending lon…
I think you might be over generalizing. Not all jobs are like that, surely. Also, any employee who thought that way would probably never rise far in their company, hence a self fulfilling prophecy.
The question is also if it has to do with the jobs, or work in general. I don't hate my work, I really like job actually. What I dislike is it taking up 37 hours of my week, that's starting to be to much, I got other stuff to do.
When I was young it didn't seem to matter than much, I had plenty of time on my hands. As you get older, time moves to fast, and there's to little of it.
Re: People start hating their jobs at 35
#116I think its because through experience people have figured out a lot of unspoken things about what its really like being an employee. They have figured out that its much more about connections and office politics than hard work. They have figured out that there is really no job security, and they could be one layoff wave away from unemployment. They have figured out that its much more about face time and spending lon…
Couldn't have put it better. At some point you realize that as far as your company is concerned, you're just human capital. And, most likely when you leave to get a new job, nobody is going to notice all the good work you did, or care who you were. And it's not you that's going to get rich off all that work.
A "human resource".
I always found that term to imply that we're just meat for the meat grinder.
Re: People start hating their jobs at 35
#117I think its because through experience people have figured out a lot of unspoken things about what its really like being an employee. They have figured out that its much more about connections and office politics than hard work. They have figured out that there is really no job security, and they could be one layoff wave away from unemployment. They have figured out that its much more about face time and spending lon…
Do most of these things really take 10+ years to "figure out" though? > its much more about connections and office politics than hard work Whether or not it's "much more" depends as much on your employer and your field as anything else, but nobody should reasonably expect that employment is a pure meritocracy where your work product is judged in a vacuum irrespective of how much people enjoy working with you or how m…
>> there is really no job security, and they could be one layoff wave away from unemployment
>Why would there be? Nobody I know is signing employment contracts or working in Civil Service positions.
Probably not true in the US, but in Europe many a 35yo has grown up under the general assumption "get a good degree, get a job at a good company, and you are set for life", simply because it was their parents' experience.
In some countries, even in the private sector, getting fired was made very hard by local laws, until recent years.
https://italychronicles.com/italys-article-18-woes/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/frances-new-layoff-law-triggers...
https://www.thelocal.es/20170521/spains-labour-reform-delive...
Re: People start hating their jobs at 35
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They have figured out that they are never going to get payed the true value of their work,and that is almost the definition of being an employee. A little bit too cynical for my taste. You make it sound as if companies serve no purpose other than extracting value from the employee to the company. Your work value inside the company is higher than the value of the work per se; the order that the firm institutes has a…
No this is correct. It’s about the mythical alpha. You can get the 1950s average unit of work out of a person, and maybe get 100 gidgets made in a day. Or you can figure out how to optimize the assembly line and reduce pee breaks and get the most out of those things you have to pay to employ. So now in the 2000s, you make 5000 widgets a day, employ fewer people and have identified more places where you can reduce cos…
"If a firm found a way to keep high end workers for cheap"
What is a "firm"? Most executives in a company optimize for they own benefit, not for yours, not for the "firms".
There is a famous article frm HBR. How to manage your boss https://hbr.org/2005/01/managing-your-boss (paywalled but I am sure you can find it for free on the net).
You have to make your boss happy. In some cases this may be done by an outstanding performance. In most cases it is done by being a good talker, walking overtime, look busy, give him a blow job under the table, whatever. But it is rarely connected with your real job performance. And again, how to measure performance? Performance for the company or performance for your superior?
Re: People start hating their jobs at 35
#119This is me and I'm 34. It started a year ago, so there's some truth to the article.
Re: People start hating their jobs at 35
#120For me it was at 24, about 2 years after I started working. The first two years were exciting vanity-filled ride, because I was proving that to myself and others that I was really capable. I got quickly promoted to a project manager role (that was in a time and organization where PMs weren't just bureucrats, the role was exciting). Delivering my first project was hell of a ride (coffee and red-bull powered one), but…
At your age (if it’s mid 20s) money should be around the bottom of the priolist, later in life that may not be an option
Or you could make disciplined by the books financial decisions throughout your 20s and 30s have it easier when you're in your 40s and 50s because you're not trying to quickly save for retirement.