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Healthcare is a human right in our modern prosperous civilization. What America has done to it is preposterous. You should be rioting, not starting lawsuits.
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Note that due to medical privacy law we can't hear the hospital's side of this. There may be something there and it's not unheard of for the parents to also be weird and controlling. > financially benefits from that control Yeah, this is a more fundamental problem with for-profit hospitals - money gets involved in treatment decisions.
I've seen this too, but I've found ego is much more of a problem. I've seen doctors get locked into a course of action and get fixated on it. At that point, facts don't matter. They HAVE to be right. The other staff fall into line, because they have an ongoing work relationship, and only a transient connection to the patient. It's good that at least for now there is still choice in facilities in our country. This wou…
I wouldn't be surprised if doctors here were gaming the rules because they knew a transfer would cause more harm than good.
On one hand, it's bad to disregard patient autonomy and legitimate guardianship, especially in such an extreme way.
On the other hand, if I was a professional convinced that not doing so would be likely to cause the death of a patient, I can't tell you for sure that I wouldn't do the same thing. The Hippocratic Oath does not say "First, follow the law; Second, do no harm".
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The article does not elucidate the complete circumstances of the girl's hospitalisation and due to confidentiality, can not. That is enough reason for me to consider this article to be sensasional. It is impossible to say who is at fault. In general, it often happens that people think they know better than doctors, and in this case she may simply be lucky that she did not get seriously ill. The article itself contain…
The patient signed a privacy release form provided by Mayo allowing them to freely discuss the case with CNN. Despite this the hospital has chosen to continue to refuse to answer questions under the guise of patient confidentiality. Since the hospital legally can present their side of the story and evidence to support it and have chosen not to, it is reasonable to accept the patient's account as accurate.
"After the calls from police, Alyssa’s parents figured out that their phones were being pinged and took the batteries out."
90% chance they all had iPhones. can't take iPhone batteries out. if they didn't, what phones have removable batteries?
riddle me that.
know how I know this story has falsehoods? "After the calls from police, Alyssa’s parents figured out that their phones were being pinged and took the batteries out." 90% chance they all had iPhones. can't take iPhone batteries out. if they didn't, what phones have removable batteries? riddle me that.
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> xcept Alfie was terminal and had a minimal chance of survival and the U.K. government still refused to allow him to leave the U.K. Permission to take him abroad was denied by the UK courts, not the UK government.
In what sense are the courts not part of the goverment? It’s not like they are private, are they?
In the US the Head of State figurehead role and the executive leadership are merged into the President of the United States, while a legislature remains separate. In the UK the Head of State figurehead role goes to a monarch (currently Queen Elizabeth II) but the executive leadership is granted to whichever group controls the legislature as Prime Minister.
There is a huge conflict of interest here. The hospital makes diagnosis, requests that the person lose their autonomy, gets control over that person, financially benefits from that control, and can use that control to hide any misdeeds or contrary evidence. There is also a profound disrespect for human autonomy. Hospitals disrespect autonomy for many people in many ways, with the most common being when birthing mothe…
We've got this right in law as well (going to a higher court). The downside though is it costs both time and money.
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I'm sure their lawyer put the kibosh on that. How could they square their claim that she was not capable of making decisions with honoring a release also signed by her?
Since when do hospitals have the ability to unilaterally decide someone is not capable of making their own decisions? If they believe that is the case they get a judge to give that person a guardian, they don't just make decisions for them.
There is a huge conflict of interest here. The hospital makes diagnosis, requests that the person lose their autonomy, gets control over that person, financially benefits from that control, and can use that control to hide any misdeeds or contrary evidence. There is also a profound disrespect for human autonomy. Hospitals disrespect autonomy for many people in many ways, with the most common being when birthing mothe…
This is why Hospitals should be run as public services instead of private companies.
Anecdotal story: One time I've driven my girlfriend to a major hospital (in the capital city of the country) because she had acute abdomen pains and the ambulance wouldn't even get there within 20 minutes (again, I live in the capital city). We spent more than 4 hours waiting before somebody even looked at her even though I tried really hard to get someone to look at her immediately, it simply wasn't possible; during our journey from the main gate to the emergency room, we were met with extreme disinterest in anything regarding our well being or providing good services at all. They sent me to a wrong building THREE TIMES while I was carrying her in hands even though I asked VERY CLEARLY where the emergency service is. When we got there, I had to pay around 100 CZK (5 USD) to even get into a queue, but no one told us, with no signs or anything around - the problem is that I specifically asked THE GUY THAT I LATER PAID TO if we need to do something. He didn't even look at me and he didn't even know where is the emergency room in his own building. And then I had to pay around 50 USD for parking there for so long.
I have many first-hand experiences like that, e.g. you wouldn't believe the conditions and treatment that awaits you if you need to be hospitalized (5 and more people in one room, of course no AC, one shower and 2 toilets for ~10 rooms, one electrical socket for the whole room, of course no internet, TV always on at full volume, food that couldn't even be considered leftovers from neighboring low-tier restaurants, total disinterest of nurses and straight-up anger towards patients that need anything, people often need to have their beds in the hallway because there are not enough rooms, etc).
If you're pregnant, tough luck, there are literally 5 year-long queues to get into a "good" hospital (very low quality by US standards) and if you want something that is at least of average quality by US standards, you have only two options: Corruption or private - I have a whole savings account for that, but I'm a high income individual (it costs around US$50k in a private "high quality" hospital that'd be considered below average in the US, and there is no way to insure yourself against expenses in private hospitals, and even if there was, it'd be on top of the US$1500 I'm already paying).
My grandfather died because of these low quality services, but of course tough luck suing anyone or getting any compensation, that's simply not possible because "that's just how it is" is considered to be acceptable defense of the hospital and the system. Even if you're successful, the biggest compensation ever granted (and that happened just once) was around US$10k.
The only thing that is "good" (average compared to the US) is what we call "high-intensive hospital care", but you don't get into that very often - that's a completely separate department for people with very severe illness or very severe other problems, and of course even if you really need it, qualifying for it is very hard because there are not enough places.
Fuck public healthcare services. I'm completely okay with donating (even through taxes) some sum of money so everyone can have access to healthcare, but I want to buy my own healthcare services on a free market.
I live in Central Europe, btw. I expect downvotes to flow, but it'd be nice to have a discussion, so please, reply instead of downvoting if possible.
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In what sense are the courts not part of the goverment? It’s not like they are private, are they?
In the UK "government" is used both very generally (as you're construing it) to mean institutions including courts, police, the Bank of England, a local municipal authority, and thus about half of everything, and specifically to mean the executive, which in the UK is run directly by politicians from the ruling party in the legislature. Unless it's clear from context people usually mean the latter, and the executive s…