UN says it has credible reports that China holds million Uighurs in secret camps

> When DER SPIEGEL visited Hotan in 2014, it was still possible to meet with a man who told us about the Chinese government's harsh measures in the surrounding towns. Such a meeting would be out of the question today, the man now informs us through a messaging app. It's not even possible to drive from one town to another without written permission, much less meet with a foreigner. "Maybe in a few years," he writes, adding: "Delete this conversation from your phone immediately. Delete everything that could be suspicious."

> There is a modern shopping center at the edge of the city, though barely one in five stores is still open. Most of the others were closed recently due to "security and stability measures," according to the official seals adhered to the doors. "Everyone was sent to school," one passerby says quietly while looking around.

> "Qu xuexi," meaning to go or be sent to study, is one of the most common expressions in Xinjiang these days. It is a euphemism for having been taken away and not having been seen or heard from since. The "schools" are re-education centers in which the detainees are being forced to take courses in Chinese and patriotism, without any indictment, due process or a fair hearing.

> More than half the people we met along the way during our journey spoke of family members or acquaintances who were "sent to school." One driver in Hotan talked about his 72-year-old grandfather. A person in Urumqi told the story of his daughter's professor. An airplane passenger spoke of his best friend.

> The stories differ, yet they all contain important parallels. Most of the people affected are men. The arrests usually occur at night or in the early morning. The reasons cited include contacts abroad, too many visits to a mosque or possessing forbidden content on a mobile phone or computer. Relatives of those who are apprehended often don't hear from them for months. And when they do manage to see them again, it's never in person but rather via video stream from the prison visitor area.

> During a conversation with a rug salesman at the market in Hotan, a woman in a short dress shows up and joins the chat. She says she works for an office nearby, and that she has taken the day off. She offers to translate the conversation with the salesman from Uighur into Chinese. No, she will later say as she walks across the nearly empty market, the store closures have nothing to do with re-education camps. "The employees were sent away for technical training," she says. Then she politely says goodbye.

I think that the Chinese government has control over which news go viral, as there are chinese programmers in Reddit and facebook killing unwanted posts. They work for the chinese government's interest, at the threat of having their families killed in China if they don't do so.

Welcome to the 3rd World War.

There were a lot of Jews in Europe, once upon a time. Vast numbers of them were detained. What's so unbelievable about a massive country with a well-developed construction industry building such camps?

> The Uighurs are not a large population. Everyone would know someone politically detained.

They do, and you've given able evidence of that.

> We would have thousands of videos of people begging for information about the whereabouts of their loved ones.

Why would they do that? I might get more of their family detained. Also, it's not like these people have access to Youtube, and I have no doubt a video like you desire would be immediately censored if posted to any Chinese site.

You've been given ample evidence from dozens reputable sources about these existence of these camps and their scale. If you cared to read them, they would have answered many of your objections. Doubt at this point is irrational denialism, akin to holocaust denialism.