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Re: If Google bows to China’s censorship, it will put tech giant on a slippery slope

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When will the lesson be learned? When will the lesson be learned? How many more dictators must be wooed, appeased - good God, given immense privileges - before we learn? YOU CANNOT REASON WITH A TIGER WHEN YOUR HEAD IS IN ITS MOUTH.

But, but, but, the Silly Valley Boys are all geniuses. Surely the other side will appeal to logic. ;-)

Re: If Google bows to China’s censorship, it will put tech giant on a slippery slope

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Because China will have leverage over Google and it has used that leverage in the past to affect countries/people outside of China.

Ummm, is that not what another large powerful country does? Or going back to the Romans, did? Isn't that the whole point of being large and powerful?

So you're not a fan of laws then? Just might?

Re: If Google bows to China’s censorship, it will put tech giant on a slippery slope

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If you do business you have to cooperate with the government and the law of that land. It is up to the people of that country to change their laws and government. I would be much more concerned if google gets an exception. In the west bigcorp gets their lobbyist army (google is #1) to get past laws and the people's will. I hope China won't bow down to Google. America is operated by corporations, some countries are no…

China is an authoritarian state. China isn't going to bow down to Google. The honorable, and the correct, thing for Google to do is not operate in China, but of course they aren't going to do that.

Baidu is many times more popular in China,makes little difference to mainland chinese people.

Re: If Google bows to China’s censorship, it will put tech giant on a slippery slope

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post #21
post #9

When will the lesson be learned? When will the lesson be learned? How many more dictators must be wooed, appeased - good God, given immense privileges - before we learn? YOU CANNOT REASON WITH A TIGER WHEN YOUR HEAD IS IN ITS MOUTH.

But, but, but, the Silly Valley Boys are all geniuses. Surely the other side will appeal to logic. ;-)

Please stick to substantive posts here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: If Google bows to China’s censorship, it will put tech giant on a slippery slope

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When google gets big enough in China they will be subject to blackmail by the chinese government when users (anywhere really) cause an upset for China's relations like a single user affirming the sovernty of Taiwan, or critisizing the mainland. They will chill free speech in this way.

Re: If Google bows to China’s censorship, it will put tech giant on a slippery slope

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think this is all premised on the belief that American corporations somehow have the moral obligation (and right) to change the way things in a different country work. > China has its own functioning tech ecosystem, so entrant companies need to play by its rules if they want to make a profit there. Period. Nazi Germany also had "its own functioning tech ecosystem". So did Stalin and Mao's even more murderous regi…

Straight to Godwin's law (in this case, I think it's germane). My argument is about American corporations imposing morality (or thinking they can). Corporations' main motivation is profit, not improving human rights. Google doesn't go to China with the primary intention of improving human rights, rather to make a profit from Chinese citizens. Google would have to pay Chinese taxes to operate there, their presence put…

> Corporations' main motivation is profit, not improving human rights.

You're not a corporation. Talk like the person you are, not like a corporation you are not, and which has no mouth and nothing to say.

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