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Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-epa-allowing-asbestos-p... The EPA has not changed anything about currently banned uses of asbestos, and any new uses would first be assessed by the agency.

That was the impression I got from the article. I think the headline of this post should be changed, but that snopes post doesn't really add anything beyond what the article says.

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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The risks have been known for years. At this point isn't not pollution or negligence to use it, it's homicide.

120 years give or take 10 years. But the free market is always right. Right ?

Yes, Adams Smith's invisible hand will always deliver the global maximum AND all local maxima at the same time! So Say We All!

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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Ever seen an ad for "mesothelioma" and wonder what is that about? Its generally law firms looking for people with asbestos related lung cancer (edit: see replies for better description of the illness). The Asbestos particles are so small your body's natural filters don't stop them from getting stuck in your lungs, where they can cause cancer.

As this point I can't imagine the insurance liability to start using asbestos again would allow this stuff to start proliferating widely again.

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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.. in related news, only robots will be allowed to apply the material, and a cousin of the second secretary of the EPA happens to have a new robot company. Nothing to see here, please move along.

I know you're kidding, but: ‘Approved by Donald Trump’: Asbestos sold by Russian company is branded with the president’s face https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/07/11/a...

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Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-epa-allowing-asbestos-p... The EPA has not changed anything about currently banned uses of asbestos, and any new uses would first be assessed by the agency.

It was my understanding they were now allowing it to be used in a case by case basis reviewed by the EPA. IMHO that makes sense. Surely there are some applications it makes sense for if the proper precautions are taken.

People thought they were taking proper precautions in the past. Proving something is safe in the long-run is very difficult and takes many years. Do you think this EPA will force applicants to do years of studies?

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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This makes sense as asbestos only really causes harm when humans come into contact with it. For applications where it is safely enclosed or mixed with another material it may have its uses. I think analysis on a case-by-case basis is the right way to go.

Like what kinds of used?

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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I imagine that whether or not the asbestos is frangible will be strongly considered during evaluation. Incidentally, I have also seen a good amount of evidence that the fiberglass we currently use to replace asbestos insulation is super bad for your health, but likely not as bad.

Asbestos, stone wool, fiberglass, etc. all tend to have the same physical properties, thus making them dangerous to inhale or ingest.

Unfortunately, these physical properties tend to be why these materials are so effective as insulators.

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-epa-allowing-asbestos-p... The EPA has not changed anything about currently banned uses of asbestos, and any new uses would first be assessed by the agency.

I think current EPA would allow asbestos infused coal plants.
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