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Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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Why??

Because the guiding principle of this administration is to undo everything that is either directly or at least philosophically tied to the last one. Perhaps the most destructive case of butthurt ever.

I disagree that it's just spite. It seems to me to be a pro-business agenda. It's literally the definition of crony capitalism.

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-epa-allowing-asbestos-p... The EPA has not changed anything about currently banned uses of asbestos, and any new uses would first be assessed by the agency.

It was my understanding they were now allowing it to be used in a case by case basis reviewed by the EPA. IMHO that makes sense. Surely there are some applications it makes sense for if the proper precautions are taken.

Well, they also are explicitly excluding any effects of it getting into the ground, water or air. Given ground, water and air is a major part of the environed the EPA is supposed to protect, what are they even doing?

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-epa-allowing-asbestos-p... The EPA has not changed anything about currently banned uses of asbestos, and any new uses would first be assessed by the agency.

Yes, instead of banning it outright they just kept the same rules and added loopholes to get around them.

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-epa-allowing-asbestos-p... The EPA has not changed anything about currently banned uses of asbestos, and any new uses would first be assessed by the agency.

the overall rating is 'Mostly true', though.

Mega misleading, it's not being used in the capacity it used to be. They aren't allowing anyone just anyone to use asbestos and none of the old use cases for it are allowed--only new ones.

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-epa-allowing-asbestos-p... The EPA has not changed anything about currently banned uses of asbestos, and any new uses would first be assessed by the agency.

They've not changed any rules... yet. But they are establishing a process for doing so. Whereas before there was no such path. So while, sure nothing has changed yet, the entire point of proposing a process for allowing new uses is ... to allow new uses.

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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What is happening to the EPA in the US is really unbelievable. How low will the bar get for the polluters in this country, one wonders?

It is not unbelievable, it is the stated stance of the GOP to reduce environmental and health regulations, and they are doing it. It is exactly what we voted for.

The majority of us did not vote for this. Without gerrymandering or the electoral college, Congress and the White House would be overwhelmingly controlled by Democrats.

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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Probably should link the list of things banned and things not banned: https://www.epa.gov/asbestos/us-federal-bans-asbestos

As I understand this is a substance you really don’t want to break down and get airborne, so felts made with it are super hazardous. Stuff like vinyl tile with it really only poses a risk if you’re grinding/sanding it or its prone to some form of decomposition (like from water damage)

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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.. in related news, only robots will be allowed to apply the material, and a cousin of the second secretary of the EPA happens to have a new robot company. Nothing to see here, please move along.

I know you're kidding, but:

‘Approved by Donald Trump’: Asbestos sold by Russian company is branded with the president’s face

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/07/11/a...

Re: EPA is allowing asbestos back into manufacturing

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What is happening to the EPA in the US is really unbelievable. How low will the bar get for the polluters in this country, one wonders?

This is the result of a 2016 amendment. Not the curreent admin. And read what the article says, the headline is clickbait. It will be a case-by-case review of any new application. Old, legacy bans will remain.

It is absolutely the decision of the current administration. From Snopes:

> The problem, according to critics, is twofold. The first, more generally, is that the EPA could have used the currently unfolding overhaul of the TSCA — which began at the end of the Obama administration and has continued along a very different path under Trump — to ban any new uses of asbestos, something that had been the case at the end of the last administration. Instead, they are explicitly allowing new uses, but with the caveat that the EPA first evaluate possible potential new uses based on “risk evaluation, select studies, and use the best available science.”

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