Introducing Android 9 Pie • Hacker News Board

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by curiousgal » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 7:40 AM UTC

curun1r wrote: post #206

j_coder wrote: post #188

It is amazing how each new version of Android has a complete new UX and none of them are actually good. Google is basically a back-end company incapable of doing good UX (if it is more than a search bar).

I would agree with you, but after spending the last two years using an Android phone after almost a decade using iOS, I feel that Google has made some fundamentally bad decisions below the UI layer as well. Despite using a phone that is newer and more powerful, my Android phone is slower, less responsive and runs out of battery much faster than any of my iPhones. The only reason I stay with Android is Google Fi.

I wholeheartedly disagree. I tried using both the iPhone 8 and the iPhone X and none of them came close to the Pixel 2, UX and feature wise. I couldn't download files, couldn't even change my ringtone to a custom melody, couldn't attach files coorectly, the integration with their Maps app was awful, the battery life drained faster after one update... I just felt so limited!

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by curiousgal » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 7:42 AM UTC

xd1936 wrote: post #82

bitmapbrother wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android P is available for the Essential phone[0] the same day as the Pixel. Technically, every device in that was enrolled in the Android P beta could have also had it day one. [0] https://www.essential.com/

Yup. I've got Android P on my Essential PH-1 right now. I'm bummed I don't have the wellbeing features that were promised.

You can have them if you're rooted.

https://www.xda-developers.com/get-google-pixel-digital-well...

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 7:43 AM UTC

abhiminator wrote: post #5

Surprised with the naming, did Google just miss a great opportunity for collaborating with candy manufacturers like they did with Nestle for Android 4.4 'KitKat'?

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Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by curiousgal » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 7:44 AM UTC

bitsoda wrote: post #140

Feels kind of lazy going with "Pie" after having used "Key Lime Pie" in the past. Though technically not a dessert, I was rooting for "Pancake".

Peppermint was the obvious choice in my book

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by watersb » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 7:49 AM UTC

blinkingled wrote: post #113

Essential has done a fabulous job with Android updates - https://twitter.com/essential/status/1026516461907369984?s=2... I hope they stay afloat and release a successor to the PH-1.

Yes, this is great. I purchased an Essential Phone on Amazon Prime Day. Amazon was (is?) an investor in Essential; they sold these for $250 on that day. The 360-degree camera is available from Essential at a deep discount.

I got the idea that they were winding down operations, but the unlocked bootloader gave me some hope that I would be able to use this device to learn Android app development.

And here they are, supporting Android P as an OTA update on launch day! I'm typing this on Android P...

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by edhelas » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 7:53 AM UTC

It's crazy that in 2018 we are still using GIFs to do short animated demo.

Those few "images" in the article were ~40Mb, come on.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by mehrdadn » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 7:55 AM UTC

Klover wrote: post #300

mehrdadn wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you cite some popular apps that do this? This is news to me.

Facebook is a popular app.

Wow, it uploads your call logs? I had no idea. I thought it was only ("only"...) contacts.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by curiousgal » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 7:56 AM UTC

mikeevans wrote: post #2

Interesting that the Digital Wellbeing features that were teased at IO aren't being launched today, but part of _another_ beta that you have to opt in to. (And Pixel series only?)

It seems like tracking began with the last beta update which I installed on July 30th if I remember correctly.

https://i.imgur.com/lJkwFrt.png

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by Dylan16807 » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 7:57 AM UTC

fixermark wrote: post #39

hateful wrote: post #36

> We partnered with DeepMind on a feature called Adaptive Battery that uses machine learning to prioritize system resources for the apps the user cares about most. You know what mind I would like to control what apps get more resources? Me

Not most people though. There was a time when in MacOS, one could manually limit the amount of memory a program was launched into by setting the required and preferred memory footprint. But that kind of low-level stuff isn't something most people care about or want to do. They just want the damn thing to work.

I don't want to micromanage things but there's definitely an app or two that I want to ban from running in the background...

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by wastedhours » Tue, Aug 07, 2018, 8:28 AM UTC

creatornator wrote: post #143

DennisAleynikov wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right Google no longer has the trust it used to enjoy. So many apps have been uploading entire call logs and it's really absurd this was so easiy accessible to all apps.

Android may have always been available at no cost, but it was never free. Always assume if you are given a service gratis, that _you_ are the product being sold. This doesn't just apply to Android, but to gmail, Drive, Docs, etc.

That being said - for the end user Android isn't free. It's a part of a device sale that they're paying for.