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Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by mrguyorama »

tensor wrote: post #131
hateful wrote: post #36

> We partnered with DeepMind on a feature called Adaptive Battery that uses machine learning to prioritize system resources for the apps the user cares about most. You know what mind I would like to control what apps get more resources? Me

Personally, I think my mind has better things to do then mechanistic micromanaging of OS level resources. Some people will be upset that ML is obsoleting these sorts of repetitive tasks, but not most people.

making a feature available does not make it required

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by cmurf »

I wonder if Google's own apps are exempt from adaptive battery? I continue to have problems with Google's apps soaking my phone's battery. Reset the phone, and I get 6 days of standby (this is LineageOS). Install Google apps, and it's now 4 hours. Wakelock detector says the apps Inbox, Google, and Google Contacts are the top offenders with dozens of wakes keeping the phone awake between 40% and 99% of the time. Super irritating.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by knuththetruth »

DennisAleynikov wrote: post #145
creatornator wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android may have always been available at no cost, but it was never free. Always assume if you are given a service gratis, that _you_ are the product being sold. This doesn't just apply to Android, but to gmail, Drive, Docs, etc.

A product only useful at the Billion User data points level. I am 100% fine participating in what's essentially the training data for all future AI products coming out of Google. It feels like a happy family of devices all working together for a more scientific future.

>It feels like a happy family of devices all working together for a more scientific future.

With this philosophy, I’d suggest you’d avoid paying attention to the trajectory of Chinese society, perhaps even more so now that Google plans to get in bed with the CCP’s censorship and dissident quashing regime...

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by DennisAleynikov »

cube2222 wrote: post #138
DennisAleynikov wrote: post #98

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I'm sorry but what the heck does this have to do with YouTubers reporting issues with their favorite daily driver phones? They aren't being paid by Samsung to say the Pixel is shit. I'm talking about MKBHD and his slowdowns specifically. Also I wanted to ask you about a previous comment you left. What really upset me was you saying Samsung Software is somehow not a feature because it's made by an OEM. Do you think Sa…

I for one just don't like the Samsung overlay interface. And my Pixel 2 - not XL, hasn't slowed down a bit since I got it. I do understand the appeal for the note though.

For me I've started a whole YouTube channel editing and filming videos all on my note 8. I've given up my MacBook pro to my brother and have exclusively used it for a year. Nothing compares to the suite of features Samsung has and I really love the design of their latest UI. It's really Microsoft esque but if done right.

I use Samsung's DeX destop environment with a cheap USB c dongle that makes my note 8 a giant 24" Chromebook PC when I'm at my desk. It's really a desktop killer for me.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by mikelward »

haldean wrote: post #17
unethical_ban wrote: post #6

* It looks like they've taken away the "apps" homerow button and swapped it for "swipe up from anywhere". So that is one less gesture available to apps, unless you install an alternative desktop. * Wi-Fi RTT sounds pretty neat, I had not heard of that before. * Shutting mic, camera and sensor data off for idle/background apps is neat, though I'm shocked that wasn't an option before.

It also looks like the back button is gone... how is that supposed to work?

Nope, it's just hidden on the home screen where you're already as far "back" as you can go.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by Frondo »

dingo_bat wrote: post #92
TeMPOraL wrote: post #76

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> Also amusing to see "battery improvements" in every release without anything to show for it. Whatever improvements are made are most likely quickly eaten by the cruft accumulating both in the system and in applications. The latter update frequently, which means you have a steady stream of bloat coming in...

This is the first time I am considering an iphone as my next phone. But the lack of headphone jack makes it really hard.

I switched to an iphone a few months ago. Lack of a headphone jack bothered me for about a day. I got used to it very quickly, and now much much prefer the iphone to my old Android device.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by mikelward »

cptskippy wrote: post #85
haldean wrote: post #17

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It also looks like the back button is gone... how is that supposed to work?

It's now an application navigation function and not an OS navigation function. So in screenshots demonstrating core OS functions it's absent but in screenshots demonstrating Apps it's present.

What are you talking about? I'm using P preview and it's still there. It's also still there in several screenshots at https://www.android.com/versions/pie-9-0/. It's just now hidden when it wouldn't do anything.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by mikelward »

vxNsr wrote: post #65
phalangion wrote: post #19

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Probably the same way it works on iPhone, where developers incorporate navigation into the apps.

Until apps adapt what is one supposed to do?

Nothing. It's still there. It's just hidden when it wouldn't do anything.

Re: Introducing Android 9 Pie

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Post by zeroxfe »

rayiner wrote: post #11

> App Actions is a new way to raise the visibility of your app and drive engagement. Actions take advantage of machine learning to surface your app to the user at just the right time, based on your app's semantic intents and the user's context. Aside from the unnecessary jargon, this irks me how it portrays the user as some passive consumer. It really drives home how Google is, first and foremost, an advertising comp…

One could easily construe this with the bias reversed, and say that Google tries to be transparent, while Apple is actively deceptive.
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