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Re: Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

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Post by mrpopo »

tilertex wrote: post #5
chii wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me, Wikileaks is known to be compromised as soon as they have leaked the Hillary email. The timing is too nicely paired and the only actor benefitting is Russia. But as with all propaganda, critical viewing and multiple sources are the tools to defeat them.

There's an explanation that makes a lot more sense: Wikileaks leaked the emails of the campaign manager for a candidate that's official stance on Assange was "can't we just drone the guy?" Or, perhaps, as you seem to suggest, everyone is a Russian agent

Either way (whether Wikileaks is compromised, or they have arguably justifiable preferences for/against specific candidates), I think they should no longer be trusted as they have obviously showed bias.

Re: Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

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Post by icanhackit »

duxup wrote: post #9
icanhackit wrote: post #7

Just a hunch - I feel as though Wikileaks is hanging on to any dirt they have on the Republicans and Trump's clique so they can use it as leverage should Julian Assange be taken into custody in the UK. All it would take is a taste of what they have to make the administration apply pressure on the DoJ to halt deportation.

Based on what?

First, it's a hunch so there is nothing to support its veracity. But Assange has never been caught without a backup plan and he'd be stupid to put all of his cards on the table.

Re: Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

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Post by tilertex »

duxup wrote: post #8
tilertex wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's an explanation that makes a lot more sense: Wikileaks leaked the emails of the campaign manager for a candidate that's official stance on Assange was "can't we just drone the guy?" Or, perhaps, as you seem to suggest, everyone is a Russian agent

What does your second paragraph mean regarding an explanation?

Means the simplest explanation is probably the best.

As in, Wikileaks isn't an evil Russian agent

Assange/Wikileaks leaked the Podesta emails in the most effective way possible to generate interest and subsequently damage the Clinton campaign since Clinton in particular is not fond of him (eg https://us-east-1.tchyn.io/snopes-production/uploads/2016/10...)

Re: Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

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Post by tilertex »

icanhackit wrote: post #7

Just a hunch - I feel as though Wikileaks is hanging on to any dirt they have on the Republicans and Trump's clique so they can use it as leverage should Julian Assange be taken into custody in the UK. All it would take is a taste of what they have to make the administration apply pressure on the DoJ to halt deportation.

Considering Wikileaks is said to have a dead mans switch, there's likely to be at least some unpublished material

Wha it includes is really anyone's guess

Re: Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

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Post by tilertex »

mrpopo wrote: post #11
tilertex wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's an explanation that makes a lot more sense: Wikileaks leaked the emails of the campaign manager for a candidate that's official stance on Assange was "can't we just drone the guy?" Or, perhaps, as you seem to suggest, everyone is a Russian agent

Either way (whether Wikileaks is compromised, or they have arguably justifiable preferences for/against specific candidates), I think they should no longer be trusted as they have obviously showed bias.

I don't think Wikileaks has ever claimed that they publish everything they receive.

Maybe they couldn't verify it's legitimacy.

Maybe they didn't find the texts of someone's daughter particularly interesting.

Maybe they haven't finished reviewing them yet.

Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water just yet.

Re: Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

#16

Post by duxup »

icanhackit wrote: post #12
duxup wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on what?

First, it's a hunch so there is nothing to support its veracity. But Assange has never been caught without a backup plan and he'd be stupid to put all of his cards on the table.

What would not being caught with a backup plan look like to you?

Would getting stuck in an embassy qualify?

Re: Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

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Post by icanhackit »

duxup wrote: post #16
icanhackit wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First, it's a hunch so there is nothing to support its veracity. But Assange has never been caught without a backup plan and he'd be stupid to put all of his cards on the table.

What would not being caught with a backup plan look like to you? Would getting stuck in an embassy qualify?

Not sure whether you're saying being stuck in an embassy meant he lacked a backup plan or whether it was one, but I'd side with him being able to stay in the embassy as a backup plan considering WL suspected there was a secret grand jury indictment against Assange.
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