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Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

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Re: Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

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Well it's pretty obvious that Wikileaks is compromised. Question is who will step into the breach. Because whilst the dry still might release valuable information it will now be tainted with "but what did they leave out". I guess that's a universal journalistic issue (I'm not here to debate if leaking raw documents is journalism). Who do you trust?

Re: Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

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> [W]hen faced with an opportunity to post the equivalent of the Podesta emails on the Trump side, it appears that Assange decided not to do it.

The Podesta emails were from the personal email account of John Podesta. Many of the emails were used for professional purposes. By contrast, the emails here are from Paul Manafort's daughter's account. In the first, Podesta is both the owner of the email account and the subject of interest. In the second, the subject of interest is not the owner of the email account. The two cases are not "equivalent."

Re: Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

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Well it's pretty obvious that Wikileaks is compromised. Question is who will step into the breach. Because whilst the dry still might release valuable information it will now be tainted with "but what did they leave out". I guess that's a universal journalistic issue (I'm not here to debate if leaking raw documents is journalism). Who do you trust?

To me, Wikileaks is known to be compromised as soon as they have leaked the Hillary email. The timing is too nicely paired and the only actor benefitting is Russia.

But as with all propaganda, critical viewing and multiple sources are the tools to defeat them.

Re: Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

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post #4

Well it's pretty obvious that Wikileaks is compromised. Question is who will step into the breach. Because whilst the dry still might release valuable information it will now be tainted with "but what did they leave out". I guess that's a universal journalistic issue (I'm not here to debate if leaking raw documents is journalism). Who do you trust?

To me, Wikileaks is known to be compromised as soon as they have leaked the Hillary email. The timing is too nicely paired and the only actor benefitting is Russia. But as with all propaganda, critical viewing and multiple sources are the tools to defeat them.

There's an explanation that makes a lot more sense:

Wikileaks leaked the emails of the campaign manager for a candidate that's official stance on Assange was "can't we just drone the guy?"

Or, perhaps, as you seem to suggest, everyone is a Russian agent

Re: Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

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post #4

Well it's pretty obvious that Wikileaks is compromised. Question is who will step into the breach. Because whilst the dry still might release valuable information it will now be tainted with "but what did they leave out". I guess that's a universal journalistic issue (I'm not here to debate if leaking raw documents is journalism). Who do you trust?

To me, Wikileaks is known to be compromised as soon as they have leaked the Hillary email. The timing is too nicely paired and the only actor benefitting is Russia. But as with all propaganda, critical viewing and multiple sources are the tools to defeat them.

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Re: Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

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Just a hunch - I feel as though Wikileaks is hanging on to any dirt they have on the Republicans and Trump's clique so they can use it as leverage should Julian Assange be taken into custody in the UK. All it would take is a taste of what they have to make the administration apply pressure on the DoJ to halt deportation.

Re: Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

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post #5
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me, Wikileaks is known to be compromised as soon as they have leaked the Hillary email. The timing is too nicely paired and the only actor benefitting is Russia. But as with all propaganda, critical viewing and multiple sources are the tools to defeat them.

There's an explanation that makes a lot more sense: Wikileaks leaked the emails of the campaign manager for a candidate that's official stance on Assange was "can't we just drone the guy?" Or, perhaps, as you seem to suggest, everyone is a Russian agent

What does your second paragraph mean regarding an explanation?

Re: Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

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Just a hunch - I feel as though Wikileaks is hanging on to any dirt they have on the Republicans and Trump's clique so they can use it as leverage should Julian Assange be taken into custody in the UK. All it would take is a taste of what they have to make the administration apply pressure on the DoJ to halt deportation.

Based on what?

Re: Wikileaks Refused to Publish Manafort Family Texts, So Someone Else Did

#10

Just a hunch - I feel as though Wikileaks is hanging on to any dirt they have on the Republicans and Trump's clique so they can use it as leverage should Julian Assange be taken into custody in the UK. All it would take is a taste of what they have to make the administration apply pressure on the DoJ to halt deportation.

Or, perhaps the Republican/Trump dirt, like the missing link (in evolutionary theory), doesn't exist?
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