BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON • Hacker News Board

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

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Post by white-flame » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 5:05 AM UTC

sebleon wrote: post #49

koalalorenzo wrote: post #27

TRON is a rip off of IPFS, and everybody knows that (Source, in case you forgot: https://twitter.com/juanbenet/status/950142785373405184 ) I mean, the homepage ( http://tron.network ) has a giant face of the "Founder" / "CEO" of the company... Glorious. I am dropping my 50 cents here: I would not look at it as if Tron bought BitTorrent... I think it was the other way around: BitTorrent was financially known to not be…

Some argue that IPFS is a rip off of BitTorrent, and thus, the circle is complete: BT -> IPFS -> TRON -> BT

IPFS is a rip off of Freenet, with all the anonymity ripped out.

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 5:08 AM UTC

Ajedi32 wrote: post #34

jerguismi wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Can HN help me understand why TRON is better than the sea of competition (Sia/Filecoin/Storj/Maidsafe/etc)? I have been following all those and based on the numerous articles I have read they are pretty much all failed. Blockchain just doesn't make sense for that application.

As someone who has also been following those projects, I actually think this is a great application for cryptocurrency. (Not necessarily blockchain; I'm pretty sure Maidsafe actually doesn't use a blockchain.) The idea of a trustless, fully decentralized, scalable, redundant, anonymous storage market is pretty alluring, and I see no reason why it's not entirely achievable with current cryptocurrency technology. I agr…

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Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

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Post by SkyMarshal » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 6:17 AM UTC

koalalorenzo wrote: post #27

TRON is a rip off of IPFS, and everybody knows that (Source, in case you forgot: https://twitter.com/juanbenet/status/950142785373405184 ) I mean, the homepage ( http://tron.network ) has a giant face of the "Founder" / "CEO" of the company... Glorious. I am dropping my 50 cents here: I would not look at it as if Tron bought BitTorrent... I think it was the other way around: BitTorrent was financially known to not be…

Yup, Bram Cohen moved on a while ago to his Chia.Network project, and the corporate owners of BitTorrent were just looking for an exit. TRON got a name brand and some tech that seems related to blockchain but not necessarily directly useful to it, and not Bram, and not sure what else.

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

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Post by nkkollaw » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 6:21 AM UTC

I still have to steal movies from time to time--when after checking all the official, legal ways there is still no way to download it.

However, with Netflix and other studios finally getting their head out of their ass there is a lot less going for BitTorrent nowadays compared to a few years ago.

At least, that's my impression...

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

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Post by rawoke083600 » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 7:21 AM UTC

Is it just me... ? I didn't know you could "buy" bitTorrent.. ? I always just assume its "only" a protocol ? :S

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

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Post by ailideex » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 8:45 AM UTC

rawoke083600 wrote: post #55

Is it just me... ? I didn't know you could "buy" bitTorrent.. ? I always just assume its "only" a protocol ? :S

They bought BitTorrent Inc, the company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_(company)

I'm not 100% sure but I think BitTorrent Inc may own some patents applicable to the BitTorrent protocol: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/04/bittorrent_awarded_...

The protocol specification is public domain though: http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0003.html

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

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Post by hobofan » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 8:58 AM UTC

LeoPanthera wrote: post #2

How does Tron still exist? After the extremely public reveal of the Genesis scam - I'm confused.

There is little reason in cryptocurrency markets. Verge is one of the craziest examples, with prices rising after shown 51 percents attacks, and prices falling after announcing a big partnership with Pornhub.

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

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Post by Fnoord » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 9:50 AM UTC

sandov wrote: post #19

agorabinary wrote: post #16

In case anyone is still using the ad-plagued bitorrent.com client: https://transmissionbt.com Lots of features, easy to use.

For Windows users I'd recommend Deluge, because its interface is more like uTorrent but without all the adware and plus it's open source. https://www.deluge-torrent.org/

I'm a fan of client-daemon architecture, such as Tmux/Screen and IRC bouncers.

With that in mind I can recommend Tmux/Screen + rtorrent (daemon, ncurses) [1] + flood (WebUI) [2] for if you don't have CLI. Works well in Docker.

[1] https://github.com/rakshasa/rtorrent

[2] https://github.com/jfurrow/flood

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

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Post by Fnoord » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 9:54 AM UTC

zipwitch wrote: post #36

hashhar wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Resilio Sync is an awesome product. Its amazing to be able to sync my pics from my Phone to my PC wireless over the Internet and to be able to sync Music and Movies from my PC to my phone over a Lan etc.

I've been using Syncthing for the same purpose.

Syncthing, Rsync, both open source and cross platform. Nextcloud also supports WebDAV IIRC.

For sending a file over LAN without using a protocol such as SSH, magic-wormhole works well.

SSH works fine for sending/receiving data, but like FTP it chokes with high amount of small files. So its best, as usual, to use tarballs or zips.

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

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Post by jxub » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 12:15 PM UTC

Ajedi32 wrote: post #34

jerguismi wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Can HN help me understand why TRON is better than the sea of competition (Sia/Filecoin/Storj/Maidsafe/etc)? I have been following all those and based on the numerous articles I have read they are pretty much all failed. Blockchain just doesn't make sense for that application.

As someone who has also been following those projects, I actually think this is a great application for cryptocurrency. (Not necessarily blockchain; I'm pretty sure Maidsafe actually doesn't use a blockchain.) The idea of a trustless, fully decentralized, scalable, redundant, anonymous storage market is pretty alluring, and I see no reason why it's not entirely achievable with current cryptocurrency technology. I agr…

About Maidsafe: their goal is to build a new descentralised internet, and I think they still are in the alpha phase with testing on a big swarm of VPS's. It is a moonshot project, with all its pros and cons. And yeah, they use Rust ;)