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BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

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Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

#31
getting JUSTed now means getting scammed... it comes from the Tron founder Justin Sun [1]. All he does is announce partnerships, real or fake (basically all fake up until this point), to pump his coin and quickly sell it off. Looks like this is one of the few real "partnerships" because everyone has caught on by now. He's also plagiarized mostly everything, code, whitepaper...

1. https://twitter.com/justinsuntron?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ct...

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

#32
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BitTorrent the company has been fairly far detached from the protocol and software introduced in 2001. The original client discontinued, µTorrent is proprietary, and launching various services like BitTorrent Sync and Play that really don't have anything to do with the protocol at all... I'm honestly surprised that the company still survives (though this may be why it's being acquired). Long story short, no, it won't…

BitTorrent Sync did do some smart things with the protocol, which is always why internal politics wound up causing it to spin out of BitTorrent the Company, which has continually tried to be a "media" company more than a tech company (which should explain BitTorrent Play, and kind of but not really explains why BitTorrent the company still exists at all in the same way that RealNetworks or WildTangent still exist in…

Resilio Sync is an awesome product. Its amazing to be able to sync my pics from my Phone to my PC wireless over the Internet and to be able to sync Music and Movies from my PC to my phone over a Lan etc.

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

#33
post #6

How does Tron still exist? After the extremely public reveal of the Genesis scam - I'm confused.

what was the genesis scam, exactly?

People tried to scam people involved in TRON via Reddit : https://cryptovest.com/news/tron-genesis-hard-fork-an-elabor...

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

#34
post #3

(IMO) TRON fails to distinguish itself from other decentralized storage blockchain tokens/coins. This move is a clever circular reasoning where taking their hype-driven valuation and using it to invest in a company that will give TRON more credibility. Can HN help me understand why TRON is better than the sea of competition (Sia/Filecoin/Storj/Maidsafe/etc)? EDIT: corrected 'syllogism'

> Can HN help me understand why TRON is better than the sea of competition (Sia/Filecoin/Storj/Maidsafe/etc)? I have been following all those and based on the numerous articles I have read they are pretty much all failed. Blockchain just doesn't make sense for that application.

As someone who has also been following those projects, I actually think this is a great application for cryptocurrency. (Not necessarily blockchain; I'm pretty sure Maidsafe actually doesn't use a blockchain.)

The idea of a trustless, fully decentralized, scalable, redundant, anonymous storage market is pretty alluring, and I see no reason why it's not entirely achievable with current cryptocurrency technology.

I agree many of those platforms have issues, but from what I can tell those issues are mostly a result of the system's immaturity; not an inherent flaw in the idea of a decentralized storage system itself.

Here's my current take on each:

* Filecoin - Doesn't exist (yet). It's just a whitepaper; no actual software.

* Storj - Not actually decentralized (as currently implemented). Users need to go through a federated service (of which only one currently exists; the one run by the creators of Storj) to actually store their files.

* Maidsafe - I'm actually not sure. The developers of Maidsafe seem to be working on much, much more than just file storage, which means the project is very complex. In any case, the software is still too immature to actually use for real.

* Sia - This is actually pretty promising. A couple weeks ago I managed to upload and store a few GB worth of files on Sia for about $2/TB-month. Going to try using it for my online backups via Duplicati once I get a chance to play with it more. The core software is still pretty clunky though, and not recommended for production use.

* TRON - I have no idea. I haven't looked into it.

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

#35
post #19

In case anyone is still using the ad-plagued bitorrent.com client: https://transmissionbt.com Lots of features, easy to use.

For Windows users I'd recommend Deluge, because its interface is more like uTorrent but without all the adware and plus it's open source. https://www.deluge-torrent.org/

qBittorrent is the best for me feature wise. Also cross platform.

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

#36
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BitTorrent Sync did do some smart things with the protocol, which is always why internal politics wound up causing it to spin out of BitTorrent the Company, which has continually tried to be a "media" company more than a tech company (which should explain BitTorrent Play, and kind of but not really explains why BitTorrent the company still exists at all in the same way that RealNetworks or WildTangent still exist in…

Resilio Sync is an awesome product. Its amazing to be able to sync my pics from my Phone to my PC wireless over the Internet and to be able to sync Music and Movies from my PC to my phone over a Lan etc.

I've been using Syncthing for the same purpose.

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

#37
post #3

(IMO) TRON fails to distinguish itself from other decentralized storage blockchain tokens/coins. This move is a clever circular reasoning where taking their hype-driven valuation and using it to invest in a company that will give TRON more credibility. Can HN help me understand why TRON is better than the sea of competition (Sia/Filecoin/Storj/Maidsafe/etc)? EDIT: corrected 'syllogism'

TRON has one thing going for it - its name evokes a well known movie. That's literally it

I suppose it's too much to hope that BitTorrent fights for the users now?

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

#38
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BitTorrent Sync did do some smart things with the protocol, which is always why internal politics wound up causing it to spin out of BitTorrent the Company, which has continually tried to be a "media" company more than a tech company (which should explain BitTorrent Play, and kind of but not really explains why BitTorrent the company still exists at all in the same way that RealNetworks or WildTangent still exist in…

Resilio Sync is an awesome product. Its amazing to be able to sync my pics from my Phone to my PC wireless over the Internet and to be able to sync Music and Movies from my PC to my phone over a Lan etc.

I especially appreciate the concept of Encrypted Shares where I can have devices participate in the sync, but not be able to read its contents. I don't know of another peer-to-peer sync tool with quite that same option. (There are several cloud storage options like Keybase that are close, but not quite the same as me spinning up a VM or always-on closet PC that I control top-to-bottom.)

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

#39
I gave a talk on cryptocurrencies a few weeks back and used Bittorrent as one of several examples of non-blockchain software/protocols that solve an important technological problem and don't require a blockchain.

Then I get home and read the news:

"Bittorrent: Now with Blockchain!!!"

Didn't some futurist warn about the threat of a sophisticated physical replication process getting out of control and turning everything into paperclips? Because it feels like we're already there in the digital domain.

Re: BitTorrent Is Now Part of TRON

#40
I hate the fact that these guys call themselves BitTorrent. I keep reading these headlines thinking BitTorrent does this, BitTorrent does that. No, the file distribution protocol is not going anywhere, it's just a bunch of idiots calling themselves that and doing random things.
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