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A MeToo Reckoning in China’s Workplace Amid Wave of Accusations

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Re: A MeToo Reckoning in China’s Workplace Amid Wave of Accusations

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Having worked in several Chinese tech co's, this is not in the least surprising to me. In one company I worked in, the CEO used the girls in the office like his personal harem. Women are hired based on looks and age, and whether they are married or not. The one surprising thing, to me, is that the accusations are gaining traction, which is good to hear.

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Re: A MeToo Reckoning in China’s Workplace Amid Wave of Accusations

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Women have no contributions irrespective of how much noise you make. Many are better suited at home cooking and cleaning.

If you want flames, you'll have to do a better job at sounding reasonable. Downvotes are free, though.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's that got to do with modern workplace sexual harassment.

I'm not sure. But maybe it has something to do with the evolution of gender equality in China? That is, maybe reaction against the Cultural Revolution and the Red Guards has reinforced male dominance? Baggage aside, the current Chinese government seems more Confucian than Communist.

Isn't it better to see it from the perspective of 'people in power can be sinful', rather than 'because there were some female leaders early on in a (highly propagandistic) movement then they most be on the side of women? Even still, there are many women who harbor men with bad behavior for personal gain.

Re: A MeToo Reckoning in China’s Workplace Amid Wave of Accusations

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It is a weird dynamic, from what I understand to China is pretty far behind (just needed a word here so I chose "behind") socially in that area. Sort of Me 2 meets mid 20th century attitudes in the US?

The US started mass employment of women in the late 1800s. It took until the 2010s for MeToo to be taken seriously. (And by seriously, I mean that there are consequences for such actions.)

Given that China actively destroyed its culture during '49-'79, and then saw the fastest growth spurt of industrialization and services ever seen in human history, it's not surprising that they're playing massive catchup.

The interesting thing would be to compare womens' working conditions in the PRC vs. the ROC, HK, and Singapore, Sinosphere countries of which none of which suffered similar political turmoil and had much less compressed development.

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I have spent a good amount of time in the mainland as a foreigner. The way that men talk about women, particularly in professional settings, is decades behind imho. KTV alone - I have heard some pretty terribls sounding stories there as well although have been lucky to only have gone to the normal ktv. A simple example is booth babes at tech shows. In the US, general consensus is that this is exploitive. In China it…

> In the US, general consensus is that this is exploitive. In China it seems quite normative. We're not that great about it in the US either. It's still an issue that people are having to fight, repeatedly. The US is definitely getting better, but it's far from solved.

At least people are trying to solve it in the US, and those people also include a sizable amount of men.
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