Well, thanks to this today I learned that Microsoft had a product called Teams. I didn't see anybody using it but I saw plenty of people using Slack. Maybe is Team addressed to big companies? My customers are all medium or small. Does anyone here have some experience using Teams? Is it really in competition with Slack?
Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
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Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
HIPAA compliance doesn't mean anything unless they're willing to sign a BAA with their customers' organizations. Perhaps they're signing BAAs now, but in the recent past (~6 months ago), I asked and they weren't signing them.
Even if they sign BAAs, that doesn't mean that every health organization is willing to go off-prem. On-prem is popular for a reason.
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#163I hope this means Slack will invest in improving their core desktop offering; it is a notorious resource hog
I'd love that too, but it won't happen.
Maybe WASM to Electron is in the horizon? :)
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
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#165This is a step in corporate IT that I really cannot fully understand. It seems that every company//startup has to use slack nowadays to pretend to be cool again.
Everytime I have a serious conversation about the productivity gains or losses of Slack though, it is pretty clear to me that it is more disruptive than helpful. It fosters a "Always on" culture, where irrelevant chats are exchanged publicly to advertise how much work is being done. If you shut down Slack and appear as Offline people assume you are not working.
It also seems to me that now that Slack became the norm for communication, I almost don't receive well written emails with well-argued technical discussions anymore. Everything is now a "Chat" that dilutes the technical discussion because it needs to be responded "directly".
I would expect 2018 to be the year where people start questioning the utility of "Slack everywhere" and not blindly jump on the Slack bandwagon because that's what great startups do.
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#166What options are left for self-hosted chat systems with comparable features? We've been using self-hosted Hipchat at our company and there is zero chance we will ever use a cloud solution.
Out of interest, why would you guys never use a cloud solution? Sensitive conversations? Server reliability?
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
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> What are enterprises supposed to use? We run Mattermost on-prem. We've been quite happy with it. They have well-defined [1] migration plans for Slack, Hipchat, and others. [1] https://docs.mattermost.com/administration/migrating.html
"For teams with large amounts of data, the export function has been reported to fail and it may be difficult to reclaim your team’s data. Consider contacting HipChat support to see if a new solution is available." They're kidding, right? That's a well-defined migration plan?
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#168Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could also be a reporter misquoting. Reporter says, “how do you respond to someone who says this creates fewer choices for people?” CEO: “There’s fewer choices for people, but they are better than choices.” Boom, first half is the money quote.
Is that the real quote?
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#169Huge problem for on-prem Hipchat customers. Plenty of customers out there not willing to put all their internal communications on the other side of their firewall, and now have to migrate. Slack doesn't have an on-prem option. Microsoft Teams doesn't have an on-prem option. What are enterprises supposed to use, RocketChat? Matrix? With no clear migration path? Really poor move on Atlassian's part. It would be one thi…
I've seen a few companies with their own Mastodon (or compatible software) instances. They can post local-only for internal stuff or just not connect it to the fediverse at all. MIT even has its own.
Re: Slack Is Buying HipChat from Atlassian
#170* No inline syntax highlight * No edit of message (apparently I've seen some do this but I never figured it out) * can only attach one image at a time * Message fails to send then after some retries, sends multiple times
It's great that I won't have to use it again. However I'm a bit surprised that atlassian is discontinuing Stride given that they have launched it relatively recently.